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Before you believe the results of the next poll/survey, watch this: (Original Post) Panich52 Feb 2015 OP
Perfect. iandhr Feb 2015 #1
I have this series on DVD.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #2
I have both series in VHS - taped them off PBS in 80s-90s. Great shows Panich52 Feb 2015 #7
I video captured all of my old VHS into mp4s. Now a whole wall of tapes fits on a single hard drive. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #8
In Wisconsin the Marquette poll is a payed pollster for Walker. midnight Feb 2015 #3
Absolutely true. DeSwiss Feb 2015 #4
In case you are unfamiliar with it, "National Service" is the British term for military conscription Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2015 #5
This bit is extremely funny if you are familiar with British newspapers Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2015 #6
! DeSwiss Feb 2015 #9
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
2. I have this series on DVD....
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:02 PM
Feb 2015

It comes from a time when Thatcher and Reagan presented themselves as anti-establishment heroes taking on the invisible, unelected bureaucrats (Big Government and Unions) that were undermining the will of the people to maintain the status quo.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. I video captured all of my old VHS into mp4s. Now a whole wall of tapes fits on a single hard drive.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 02:23 AM
Feb 2015

midnight

(26,624 posts)
3. In Wisconsin the Marquette poll is a payed pollster for Walker.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:04 PM
Feb 2015

"Why did Charles Franklin allow such as obviously flawed poll to be printed?" And this is the scary part- he did it because printing pro-Walker polls is what he's really paid to do."


Thank you for posting a visual interpretation to the links that I posted here will confirm.



http://jakehasablog.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-franklin-macivered-marquette-poll.html

http://law.marquette.edu/faculty-and-staff-directory/detail/5754835

"Scot Ross, a liberal muckraker who runs the group One Wisconsin Now, was critical of the deal from the beginning. He said his "worst fears were confirmed" after he obtained e-mails under the open records law showing WPRI President George Lightbourn lobbied Goldstein to publicize results from one question in a way favorable to its agenda.

The question asked whether government funding should be used for school vouchers, which WPRI supports. A majority of residents statewide were opposed, but those surveyed from Milwaukee County were in favor.

Lightbourn wrote Goldstein he was concerned critics would portray the data as showing a lack of support for vouchers and asked for the Milwaukee County results to be emphasized. The university's press release read: "School choice remains popular in Milwaukee."

And of course, Franklin’s setup with the private Marquette Law School comes with the perk of the public not having the right to know what’s really happening (much like the issues relating to Scott Walker leaving the school in 1990, come to think of it). In 2012, Ed Garvey at the old Fighting Bob blog discussed the ability to get info on these polls from UW and Marquette, with some interesting differences in disclosure."

http://jakehasablog.blogspot.com/2014/10/connect-dots-on-marqutte-poll-and-pro.html


 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
4. Absolutely true.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 03:49 PM
Feb 2015
- However, the poll(s) that truly matter most to us aren't anymore believable. Because it simply repeats whatever the programmer tells it. It need only be skewed a smidgen, you know.

Garbage in, garbage out.

K&R



Who watches the watchers........

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
5. In case you are unfamiliar with it, "National Service" is the British term for military conscription
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 04:49 PM
Feb 2015

The two characters are Sir Humphrey Appleby, the Cabinet Secretary (top man in the civil service) played by Nigel Hawthorne and the Prime Minister's Private Secretary, Bernard Woolley, played by Derek Fowlds.

Yes, Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher's favorite television program.

In another episode, Sir Humphrey explains British foreign policy:

Sir Humphrey: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?

Prime Minister Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely?

Sir Humphrey: Yes, and current policy. We 'had' to break the European Economic Community up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.

Hacker: But surely we're all committed to the European ideal?

Sir Humphrey: [chuckles] Really, Minister.

Hacker: If not, why are we pushing for an increase in the membership?

Sir Humphrey: Well, for the same reason. It's just like the United Nations, in fact; the more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up, the more futile and impotent it becomes.

Hacker: What appalling cynicism.

Sir Humphrey: Yes... We call it diplomacy, Minister.

There is actually quite a bit of truth to this one.

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