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CIA Torture Whistleblower John Kiriakou: Wake Up, You’re Next (Original Post) jakeXT Feb 2015 OP
It does not work AND it is immoral. zeemike Feb 2015 #1
photo of whistleblowers in Russia uhnope Feb 2015 #6
Yeah, why am I not surprised? chervilant Feb 2015 #2
+1000 blackspade Feb 2015 #3
RT lol. Too bad he goes full Godwin at the end uhnope Feb 2015 #4
Which agents in the field were exposed? n/t xocet Feb 2015 #5
#1 Repeal the Patriot Act libodem Feb 2015 #7

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
1. It does not work AND it is immoral.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:09 AM
Feb 2015

But they want the argument to be about it working so they can ignore the morality of it.
But this guy did what he did for moral reasons and wound up in prison for it.
That speaks volumes about where we are as a nation.

Great interview...Thank you Abby Martin.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
2. Yeah, why am I not surprised?
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 12:45 PM
Feb 2015

The people who should be in prison are invited on right wing talk shows to pontificate about how "torture works" and "we'd do it again!"

And, this man, rational and absolutely correct, is still under "house arrest."

That President Obama is complicit in this fiasco saddens me greatly.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
4. RT lol. Too bad he goes full Godwin at the end
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:30 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Wed Feb 25, 2015, 03:27 PM - Edit history (1)

He's obviously got good intentions but it's unclear what his motivations were. If he wanted to be a whistleblower, he could have gone about it methodically and then today he would be a hero. Instead he exposed agents in the field and lied about the book he was publishing, violating his contract (every former CIA employee has to go through this if they write a book.) His praise of Snowden shows his judgement is off, as does his going on RT to help with Putin's propaganda. And his Godwin "Goebbels" hyberbole at the end--it's like Putin TV wrote the script for him

Thank god we got rid of torture as a policy, but it was mainly Abu Ghraib revelation that led to that. And of course, torture is a normal part of the justice system in Russia, which makes this report tragically ironic.

Oh, and I found a photo of Russia whistleblowers:

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