Thom Hartmann: “Terror Politics" are Back with a Vengeance

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The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann on RT TV & FSTV "live" 7pm and 10pm check www.thomhartmann.com/tv for local listings

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1. How often does Thom cover something that would conflict with the Kremlin propaganda narrative

or would that conflict with his RT paycheck and exposure?

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2. I think we have more to worry about with propaganda here at home, MSM, is PR, but

you keep worrying about RT.

Thankfully, we have alternative media. BS and propaganda happens everyday on USA MSM....or haven't you been paying attention?

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3. so 2 wrongs make a right

ok got it thx

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4. You have no case, if the truth bothers you, just continue to tune into MSM, you'll get

plenty of whitewash. Go turn on Fox.

You are way off and it's ridiculous for you to infer somehow a journo is a traitor for working for RT? Please, how many in this country are working every day for foreign corporations?

Perhaps we should censor RT and not allow it to be broadcast in our country?

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5. project much?

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You are the one with no case. Your case is that, um, MSM is bad so leave Hartmann alone. That's not even an argument. (And it's rich that you call me a FOX watcher, since FOX is the closest thing we have in the US comparable to Hartmann's network, RT.)

My "case" was a question: How often does Hartmann say anything that contradicts Kremlin propaganda?

While you're at it, how about this case of Hartmann being a total Kremlin apologist: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/10/1283668/-Thom-Hartmann-Sticking-with-RT-despite-Resignations-over-Putin-s-Actions-in-Ukraine

Hartmann did not address the crisis in Ukraine on his television program, but during his radio program earlier in the day he discussed the situation with Stephen Cohen, who has written recent pieces in The Nation magazine entitled "Demonizing Putin" and "Distorting Russia." During the interview, Hartmann and Cohen accepted as fact the conspiracy theory thatsnipers on the side of the new anti-Russia government fired on their own side in the main square in Kiev so that the now-ousted president Viktor Yanukovych would be blamed.

Hartmann and Cohen also referred the new anti-Russian Ukrainian government as "extremists." "The extremists came to power sharing, they are sharing power now," Cohen said, to Hartmann's agreement. "Obama unwisely keeps declaring the government in Kiev as legitimate," Cohen added.

The Ukrainian governing coalition involves power-sharing between several parties, one of which, Svoboda, is ultranationalist with fascist roots.

Hartmann suggested that the new anti-Russia government in Ukraine were neo-Nazis. "If you listen to the words of these guys in the cabinet, if you listen to the words of the party, they are openly antisemitic, they are openly nationalistic, they are open aggressive," Hartmann said. "Some may think calling them Nazis is a slur, some of them wouldn't refer to themselves that way, but some of them embrace swastikas."

Hartmann has in the past defended Russia on issues like gay rights, saying that Russia is not as bad as Saudi Arabia in terms of gay rights while pointing out that the United States did to give women the right to vote until 1920.

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6. So you are about censorship? Apparently...you are the expert on Kremlin propaganda? Funny how

these issues should be discussed in MSM, but they are not. Too busy spouting the corporate rhetoric and messages...war, war and more war.

Why don't you address "your issues" with TH, or maybe dailykos can for you?

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7. the logical fallacies

and just plain trollery is strong in your message.
"So you are about censorship" "you are an expert on Kremlin propaganda" lol http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html

The article adequately introduces Hartmann's issues, so why don't you address them if you can. Probably not if you are motivated by hero worship and blinded by fandom.

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8. Hardly, I just think that propaganda is here and everywhere, but the truth shines through to those

who don't censor themselves or limit themselves to MSM, here or there.

Freedom of the press is a swinging door. Your issue with Hartmann is because he is on RT, he was here on Air America, and I'm sure he has other venues for what he does. The real issue at hand is you ascribe his being linked to RT as somehow unpatriotic because of the issues btwn Russia and the US. I don't doubt for a moment that Russia enjoys the issues brought up by anyone criticizing our own "democracy" (and I use that term loosely), but hell, if we believe in democracy it is exactly what we must do. One doesn't sit back and expect the oligarchy to do what's right. These are times that try the very tenets of our values and to point fingers where there is no hidden agenda only serves the oligarchy.

I'm sick to death of the criticism aimed at RT, if our own MSM wasn't bought and paid for, many of those on RT would be on MSM. There are plenty of US voices speaking out on RT, and everywhere else. You are still in the cold war, my friend.

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9. you're sick to death?

of criticism of RT? Are you also sick to death of criticism of FOX news? Because that's the USA's equivalent to RT.