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Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:58 AM

Mike Wallace interviewing Ayn Rand



She is so beyond yuck! "Very few people are worthy of love. but love is not that important". Wallace asks good questions.

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Reply Mike Wallace interviewing Ayn Rand (Original post)
mucifer Apr 2012 OP
hlthe2b Apr 2012 #1
mucifer Apr 2012 #2
hlthe2b Apr 2012 #9
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #14
Martin Eden Apr 2012 #19
hlthe2b Apr 2012 #20
postulater Apr 2012 #3
BeyondGeography Apr 2012 #4
rfranklin Apr 2012 #6
rfranklin Apr 2012 #5
AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #26
rfranklin Apr 2012 #29
Delphinus Apr 2012 #7
Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #8
FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #10
Aviation Pro Apr 2012 #11
Burma Jones Apr 2012 #12
crim son Apr 2012 #13
Kablooie Apr 2012 #25
ML.tp.MD Apr 2012 #15
Stainless Apr 2012 #16
ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #17
safeinOhio Apr 2012 #18
benld74 Apr 2012 #21
PA Democrat Apr 2012 #22
GreenTea Apr 2012 #23
leveymg Apr 2012 #24
Brooklyn Dame Apr 2012 #27
RBInMaine Apr 2012 #28
provis99 Apr 2012 #30
Plucketeer Apr 2012 #31

Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:06 AM

1. She was an ugly ugly woman--to her very core...

And, physical appearance is irrelevant to that assessment.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:14 AM

2. My description of yuck is not a physical description of her.

I totally agree with you.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:58 AM

9. Yes... I knew that... just referring to my own comment.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 11:39 AM

14. She had demented ideas, like the GOP only worse. nt

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:45 PM

19. Paul Ryan thinks she's beautiful

He extolls her writings as providing moral lessons that should guide public policy.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:46 PM

20. Ahh, in the mind of a true sociopath....

Paul Ryan is what is demonstrably wrong with our society.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:14 AM

3. Thx for later

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:26 AM

4. I do admire her flaming atheism and Mike Wallace's ability

to smoke in middle age and live to 93.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:36 AM

6. Ayn Rand was a weak willed cigarette junkie...

 

Ayn Rand couldn’t break her smoking habit, but because everything she did had to have some cockamamie “rationalism” to it, she came up with the awesome excuse that a burning cigarette in the hand is a symbol of “the fire in the mind”. Shiny! To further cover up the fact that she is just a screwed up human being like everybody else, she decided to make smoking not just acceptable among her gaggle of groupies, but actually mandatory. She later got lung cancer, which was, by all accounts, hilarious.

http://www.thisblogrules.com/2010/09/the-five-most-spectacular-dick-moves-of-ayn-rand.html

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:34 AM

5. Parasite! Sucked on the government teat when she needed it...no hypocrisy there, nosireee!

 

Ayn Rand, Hypocrite?
Legendary opponent of “welfare state” received Social Security and probably Medicare

By Patia Stephens

An interview recently surfaced that was conducted in 1998 by the Ayn Rand Institute with a social worker who says she helped Rand and her husband, Frank O’Connor, sign up for Social Security and Medicare in 1974.

Federal records obtained through a Freedom of Information act request confirm the Social Security benefits. A similar FOI request was unable to either prove or disprove the Medicare claim.

Between December 1974 and her death in March 1982, Rand collected a total of $11,002 in monthly Social Security payments. O’Connor received $2,943 between December 1974 and his death in November 1979.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/canuckistanian/blog/2011/01/ayn-rand-received-social-security-medicare

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:44 PM

26. I've seen a lot of valid criticisms of her over the years but...

This one rings a bit hollow to me, given she had significant income, and paid into the system.

Why wouldn't she take back some of what she paid in? It's not like people can opt out on the contribution side.

If she never paid in AND took money out, I would understand that criticism.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:16 PM

29. I don't care to delve into Rand's rantings, but here is what her adherents believe...

 

Social Security is Immoral
By Alex Epstein (Providence Journal, January 20, 2005; Detroit Free Press, February 6, 2005; Colorado Springs Gazette, March 27, 2005; Philadelphia Inquirer, March 28, 2005; USA Today Magazine, May 1, 2005; Louisville Courier-Journal, May 7, 2005)

In his State of the Union Address, President Bush said that many options were "on the table" to deal with Social Security's problems, and that he "will listen to anyone who has a good idea to offer." But there is one idea he will not listen to: the idea that Social Security should be phased out and ended altogether. Why? Because like his Democrat critics, he believes that whatever Social Security’s financial problems, the program is "a great moral success."

But is it?

Social Security is commonly portrayed as benefiting most, if not all, Americans by providing them "risk-free" financial security in old age.

This is a fraud.

http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10857&news_iv_ctrl=1021

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:37 AM

7. Thanks.

Will watch later.

I remember reading Atlas Shrugged in the mid-80s and it generated so many questions for me.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:55 AM

8. Livia Soprano.

That's all I can think of when I see this interview. Both in terms of nastiness, perverse thinking and physical resemblence.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:11 AM

10. Sorry... can't look...don't want to turn to stone!

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:36 AM

11. She was a nasty, little....

...cigarette monger and deserved the karma she received.

Paul Krugman eviscerated one of her disciples, Paul 'Fucking Moron' Ryan, in his column today and called him a walking, posing piece of phlegm. (OK, I embellished, but it fits what I read).

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:53 AM

12. Oh, she's the model for a Sponge Bob character.......

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 11:27 AM

13. If she seems to be physically ugly, and she does, it has nothing to do with

her features which are classic, and everything to do with what lies within. Her shifting eyes and prideful, contemptuous expression literally make me feel ill, as if whatever is rotting inside her is oozing from her pores and infecting the space she occupies. Extremely creepy.

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Response to crim son (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:46 PM

25. She is one of Clarence Thomas's idols.

And many tea baggers.
This is what they aspire to.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 11:59 AM

15. marsh sweetheart

the GOP GOD LOVIN' EVANGELICAL TEAPARTY people love her. Paul Ryan loves her, he makes all his staff read her nonsense. Her whole philosophy is "every man for himself". Not exactly Christian at all is it? But they lover her!!! Wall Street loves her! Can't think of his name now but Andrea Mitchell's husband who used to be head of the Federal Bank used to be one of her personal followers and lovers. He or someone wrote about it in a book. She is still very much with us and in our government so be on the look out!

And by the way, doesn't she kind of remind you of Orly Taitz?

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:20 PM

16. Look at those eyes!

Her eyes are constantly darting about, never focusing on anything. It is easier to turn your back and listen than to try and concentrate on what she is saying while looking at her. I have a very difficult time accepting her so called "objectivism" as anything more than the inarticulate rambling of an insane narcissist.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:59 PM

17. She says she likes objective thought, but I don't think she knows what that is. nt

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:32 PM

18. Commie Atheist

Objectivist Atheist, all the same.

That would make Paul Ryan=to Joe Stalin.
It's time to hang that label on Rand's followers.

How about Ayan Rand the anti-Christ?

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:53 PM

21. Mans highest form of achievement is his own happiness? I think that called,,,

"Ive gots mine and you cants haves none"

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:30 PM

22. Gotta love a political party that claims we are a "christian" nation and then

models their economic policies on the writings of someone who mocks the most basic tenets of Christianity.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:55 PM

23. Rand was one arrogant eltist.... cold-hearted selfish right-wing lying fool!

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:08 PM

24. She talks about separation of C&S- Ironic that Greenspan became High Priest of a state religion

of capitalism, as embodied in the Fed, that oversees state intervention to subsidize and bail-out the major banks. Rand, herself, says, "capitalism with Gov't help is the worst of all economic phenomena." (Pt.2, 6:38) Did she really believe that, or is that just the public line?

Contradictions within conundrums wrapped in cynicism. Not a very attractive package, on the outside.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:38 PM

27. Fraud

That woman who, whether she knew what would happen or not, started an 'us vs. them' revolution of her own. Every miserable word out of her mouth became the GOP's manifesto. The funny thing is that the very system she vilified became the very thing that helped her; when she became destitute she used government support systems to take care of her. Deceitful fraud.

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/01/ayn-rand-an-intellectual-fraud/

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:04 PM

28. Extremist right wing nutjob.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:50 PM

30. looking at her stone cold eyes reminds me of a Jaws quote.

 

Quint: the thing about a shark... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

sounds like he was describing Ayn Rand to a T.

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Response to mucifer (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:58 AM

31. What I'm going to say is NOT sexist...

but if she had the "sex life" she's purported to have, it had to be thanks to the light switch in no small part. Consider that she WAS "barren" upon her passing.

ANd HOW DO the Right's champions of Ayn, balance her ideals against those of their Christian factions???

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