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Megyn Kelly Grills Dick Cheney: 'You Got It Wrong' On Iraq (Original Post) DreamSmoker Jun 2014 OP
Did He Start Off By Calling Her Reagan?...... global1 Jun 2014 #1
Freudian slip WhoIsNumberNone Jun 2014 #6
Grilling? KansDem Jun 2014 #2
Agreed! She played the opposition talking points card so he could shut them down. It's in the script freshwest Jun 2014 #14
God help me... tom_kelly Jun 2014 #3
A common response...nt mother earth Jun 2014 #15
This bastard is STILL using language to give the impression that 9/11 happened under Clinton.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #4
Yet none of them want to say that Obama inherited the current situation from bush Victor_c3 Jun 2014 #9
They actually believe they're WORDS can alter reality like they're casting spells. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #10
What an Arrogant SOB zebonaut Jun 2014 #5
Cheney is nuttier than a fruit cake! He repeats lies that have been proven wrong time and time Lint Head Jun 2014 #7
Baloney, Big Dick Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #8
What a complete asshole Dick Cheney is. Stuart G Jun 2014 #11
I Need a Shovel Here! imthevicar Jun 2014 #12
Dicks out there doing damage control .. for himself of course. Where's his boy Georgie? YOHABLO Jun 2014 #13
I've heard Cheney and W didn't leave office on friendly terms rbrnmw Jun 2014 #17
So, Megyn...... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #16
Looked like a set-up to me. She gave him a chance to publicly answer the question rhett o rick Jun 2014 #18
Cheney did a great impression of Peter Griffin. KurtNYC Jun 2014 #19

global1

(25,242 posts)
1. Did He Start Off By Calling Her Reagan?......
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jun 2014

Wow - he invoked Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.

Notice how he used 9/11. PNAC worked well for this guy.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. Grilling?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 11:44 AM
Jun 2014

I have to agree with a comment on the YouTube website:

Grilling? More like a good question and then she let him BS his way around her. I guess she's just trying to keep her job.

Perhaps she did do some follow-ups that were not included with this excerpt?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Agreed! She played the opposition talking points card so he could shut them down. It's in the script
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jun 2014
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. This bastard is STILL using language to give the impression that 9/11 happened under Clinton....
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

Claiming they "inherited" a problem is pinning everything on the prior Democrat.

I've run into a few mouth breathers who actually BELIEVE 9/11 happened under Clinton.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
7. Cheney is nuttier than a fruit cake! He repeats lies that have been proven wrong time and time
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jun 2014

again. This asswipe belongs in prison and not a country club type of prison.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. Baloney, Big Dick
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jun 2014

In Cheney's reply to Ms. Kelly's question, he resorted to the usual Neocon standard of blaming either President Clinton or the CIA. "We inherited a situation," he begins, and asserts that "we all agreed" on a conventional wisdom that turned out to be wrong in almost every respect.

However, much evidence leads back to the Office of the Vice President as to why that intelligence was so wrong. Why did Cheney and Scooter Libby make so many visits to CIA headquarters? Was it to twist analysts' arms an get them to say what he wanted them to say? Why was Cheney such a big believer in waterboarding? Torture -- and only a shyster like Liz Cheney would argue that waterboarding isn't torture, and perhaps only because she's defending her father from accusations of war crimes -- is a bust when it comes to gaining actionable intelligence. No one under that kind of duress should have his words taken at face value. However, torture is an excellent way of getting a subject to say what one wants to hear. American POWs in North Korea and North Vietnam were tortured in an attempt to put them behind a microphone and denounce US foreign policy. Were captured "terrorists" tortured in order to get them to say that Saddam had biochemical arsenal at his disposal or that he was "reconsituting" his nuclear weapons program? How did that crap, so easily discredited, find its way into the National Intelligence Estimate? Why did Cheney, or someone in his office, push a forged document regarding an attempt by Saddam to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger? That document came from a seller of documents with a bad reputation, and it was even a poor forgery. Ambassador Wilson was sent to Niger to investigate, found nothing to indicate that any sale was being arranged or even remotely discussed, and reported so to the CIA. How did an assertion that Saddam actually tried to buy yellow cake end up in the subsequent State of the Union message?

There is a pattern of the Bush administration, including those in the Office of the Vice President, fabricating intelligence and willfully placing it official reports. If the intelligence were a good faith effort to gather facts, the law of averages would seem to suggest that those vetting the intelligence would have gotten something right. Beyond the general statement that Saddam was a brutal tyrant, the one thing everyone could actually agree on without much discussion, the Bushies got everything wrong.

It is clear that their mission was not one of fact finding. They were fishing for talking points. That goes long ways in explaining how every assertion made by the Bush administration to justify the invasion of Iraq, except the one already noted, failed to stand up under the slightest scrutiny. Those of us who paid attention were aware that case for war was falling apart even as Secretary Powell addressed the UN Security Council. Except in the United States with its supine press, which reported it as always according to the dictates of the powers that be, who wanted war. "People" like ExxonMobil and Halliburton.

It is difficult to see how this was even a result of self-deception. They were lying. They knew they were lying.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
17. I've heard Cheney and W didn't leave office on friendly terms
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jun 2014

maybe Dubya knows he can't defend his war crimes while brother Jeb is considering running for President in 2016

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
16. So, Megyn......
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jun 2014

...how's it feel to be a ''liberal'' now? Hell, even Beck is apologizing to us. I'm expecting a call from him asking to join the ''liberals'' any day now.

- Somebody wake me up this has to be a dream!!!

K&R



 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. Looked like a set-up to me. She gave him a chance to publicly answer the question
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jun 2014

many are asking without follow-up.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
19. Cheney did a great impression of Peter Griffin.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:01 AM
Jun 2014

Cheney wasted no time in tying Saddam to 911 right there, again.

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