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Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:48 PM

Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society: Andrew Chambers at TEDxMarionCorrectionalSalon 2013

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Reply Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society: Andrew Chambers at TEDxMarionCorrectionalSalon 2013 (Original post)
MrScorpio Nov 2013 OP
1monster Nov 2013 #1
dotymed Nov 2013 #3
Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2013 #2
drynberg Nov 2013 #4
Diclotican Nov 2013 #5

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:20 PM

1. Well, the criminal justice system in this country certainly is criminal...

but there is precious little justice to be had in that system.

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Response to 1monster (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:22 AM

3. It is a wonder

that "they" didn't recruit him as a cop.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:39 PM

2. VERY moving

and how many more are there like him out there? But Andrew has a great heart and hopefully has gotten more help since the sleeping pills he was handed at the VA.

K&R

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:42 AM

4. Happy belated Veterans' Day

Just an idea, but maybe we should mean what we say when we "Support the Troops", you?

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 07:23 AM

5. MrScorpio

MrScorpio

The story he is telling, is more or less the same as many other soldiers - from other wars have told when they came back to "normality" and had to adjust to a more normal form of life.... I did had a few familiy members who had been fighting back in WW2 - in Europe - and even thought they never really told about how bad things was in that war - from the little they told - I got the idea about how bad it really was then.. And of course I do rembember the times when my foster father - had really problems sleeping - it often happened when it was a big aniversity for the end of the war - I believe my first experience with his problems was when it was 40 year since World War Two ended - he had a few weeks where he had trouble sleeping - and when he slept, it was not any pleasure dreams he had - from what I gathered it was horrible dreams about wars - and the devastating it had on people who had to fight in the war... And my fostefather was a young man when the war started here in Norway - but he had to leave - the germans had a prise on his head - and he was not back home, before he was a grown man - with a lot of baggage from the years in trying to defeat the germans.. And for some reason he had real troubles trusting any germans -who roughly was on his own age group... As he once said it - this could be the hand who was killing children by trowing their head against a brick wall - or sending woman, and children to their death in gas shambers...

He had many more bad dreams - nightmares i you want - in reality it was flashback to the time when Europe indeed was a dark place to be - but at the age of 83 he finally got peace, as he died. But even as he was there, in hospital - he believed that he was back in WW2 - and that Gestapo was waiting in the other room - ready to get him.. He even tried to convince my foster mother to get some sheets - to do a makeshift lather - to make him out of the hospital room.. The problem was that it was at 6th floor above the ground - and I doubt the sheets would have hold him... But my foster mother who had been in this situation before -managed to calm the old man down - and he walked into the night in peace.... Hopefully in peace with himself in the end...

But by the way - 3 weeks after he was buried - it was a horrible thunderstorm over most of the area - and my foster brother kind of stated "Oh, he have getting there - he have started augmenting already" - He was rather known from making some rather interesting arguments my dear fosterfather... He could be as stubborn as they come - but if you stated YOUR case - he might as well be in agreement with you - in the end...

Diclotican

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