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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 04:25 PM

Liberals, Moderates Agree: Arrest James Clapper



The Young Turks ·Published on Aug 18, 2013

"There is no longer any doubt that Director of National Intelligence James Clapper lied to Congress. Likewise, there is no doubt that his lie runs afoul of federal law. And, of course, there is no doubt that in terms of its implications for oversight, constitutional precepts and privacy for millions of Americans, his lies were far more serious than those that have gotten other people prosecuted for perjury. The question now is whether his brazen dishonesty will become a political issue — or whether it will simply disappear into the ether."* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.

Read more here from David Sirota / Salon:
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/15/huge_majority_wants_clapper_prosecuted_for_perjury/


- The fact that the Republicans aren't using this Executive Branch liar's lies to Congress as the perfect opportunity to bash Obama, is a testament to how much shit this guy has on EVERYBODY.

Arrest him? I'll be surprised if they don't give him The Medal of Freedom.....

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Reply Liberals, Moderates Agree: Arrest James Clapper (Original post)
DeSwiss Aug 2013 OP
Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #1
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #5
Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #8
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #9
limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #12
MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #18
Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #22
MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #24
jjewell Aug 2013 #25
NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #2
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #6
bvar22 Aug 2013 #3
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #7
xocet Aug 2013 #4
BillyRibs Aug 2013 #10
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #11
BillyRibs Aug 2013 #13
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #14
BillyRibs Aug 2013 #15
MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #19
BillyRibs Aug 2013 #20
MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #21
wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #16
Quantess Aug 2013 #17
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #23
Coyotl Aug 2013 #26

Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 05:30 PM

1. K/R

I'll settle for his resignation if the spying stops.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:40 PM

5. ''...if the spying stops.''

- Arrests will be the only way the spying stops.

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:12 PM

8. So who is going to arrest Mr. Clapper?

That falls under the purview of the executive branch, after all.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:17 PM

9. This is a fictional version of what must be done......

...your results may vary.





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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:19 AM

12. LOL.

Let's do that .

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:18 AM

18. The question should be WHEN

Are you already willing to believe that there is one rule for the proletariat and another for the "Noblesse oblige"?

I refuse to go along with a corporate state, personally.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:54 PM

22. No, but I am willing to put matters in perspective

For me, the important thing is to end the mass surveillance, not to prosecute this or that individual.

I'm really pretty sore about this whole mess and I feel like I've been taken for a sucker by a fellow who had me believing as long as six years ago that he would reverse much of the wrongdoing of the Bush junta. On the plus side: he ended the war against Iraq; will end the war in Afghanistan, although taking more time to do so than necessary; killed Osama bin Laden, the man responsible for the September 11 attacks; succeeded in getting Congress to pass the Affordable Care Act, although it is much weaker than it could have been; signed the Lilly Ledbetter Act into law; and he made a series of maneuvers that has resulted in giant steps toward the goal of equality for gay and lesbian Americans. While Guantánamo remains open, the President wants to close it and has been prevented from doing so by obstinate congressional Republicans who will be judged even more harshly by history than President Obama for what follows.

On the minus side: Obama has aided and abetted the war criminals from the Bush junta in escaping justice; he has committed war crimes in his own right though the careless use of predator drones against suspected terrorists without regard to collateral damage (i.e., the deaths of noncombatants); he has continued the mass surveillance of private communications of American citizens begun under the Bush junta with only cosmetic "reforms"; he has signed into law a measure that allows him to abrogate any person's right to due process of law; he has punished individuals for exposing war crimes, acts of terror and torture while acting in the official capacity as agents of the United States, while taking no action against or even rewarding those whose crimes were exposed; he has aided and abetted the Wall Street criminals who crashed the world economy not only in escaping justice but in gaining greater power over the lives of common people whose trust they betrayed than they had before; he has sent negotiators to secret meetings aimed at agreeing on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal that will end the national sovereignty of any nation foolish enough to sign it and set up a court to levy fines against any signatory nation that fails to bring its laws into compliance with TPP standards in matters concerning consumer safety, labor rights and environmental protection.

It remains to be seen whether the President will push Congress to ratify the TPP or approve the Keystone Pipeline, both of which would also count on the minus side.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:17 AM

24. Good accounting of Obama...

Drawing the line down the center of the paper, that's about it. Instead of someone having me believe six years ago, I flat out believed six years ago, so I wasn't paying attention...

Sure has my attention now...

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:47 AM

25. Excellent synopsis of the current situation Jack Rabbit...

I applaud you.

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:36 PM

2. He had to have been ordered to keep his trap shut. Isn't he just a pawn?

Where does the buck stop again?

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:45 PM

6. Then the ''orderer'' would also be guilty of conspiracy to lie to Congress.

On the other hand, he may be the orderer. No one knows who's the pawns in this game of eleventy-dimensional chess because no one knows the rules.

- And that's because the rules are made-up (for us) as they go......

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 06:36 PM

3. This Mainstream-Center FDR Democrat agrees.

I wasn't a "Fringe Leftist" until I came to DU.
I haven't changed.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:45 PM

7. I hear ya.

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 07:55 PM

4. K & R n/t

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:53 AM

10. No one should have that much power.

 

I fear someone will take the action for the only solution to this man.

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Response to BillyRibs (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:59 AM

11. Any power they have is ours.....

...and we gave it to them.



''...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.''

The American Declaration of Independence

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:21 AM

13. This I know, But

 

I also realize the realities!

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Response to BillyRibs (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:34 AM

14. “Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else.” ~George Orwell, 1984 n/t

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:42 PM

15. Nice sentiments, But I'm a Cynic

 

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." -Mao

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Response to BillyRibs (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:21 AM

19. That's a good way to end up on the wrong side of one, BillyRibs...

I won't hold anything against your low post count at this point, but do you realize that we still should be a nation of laws and that we are constitutionally guaranteed to have equal protection under those laws?

Just putting it out there for ya...

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 11:47 AM

20. Low count does not mean Low IQ!

 

Just means I found a place where My Political Ideas and speech now have an out let with worthy opinions.
It also stands to say I Kick often and do not respond to every single post.

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Response to BillyRibs (Reply #20)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:35 PM

21. Didn't think the two were supposed to be correlated...

I think the more expressed, the better one CAN express, which shouldn't be limited to K&R...

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:31 PM

16. Arrest the SOG! K & R! n/t

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:47 AM

17. Best TYT clip I've seen in a while.

Cenk Uygur is back to being himself.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 05:11 PM

23. Yes it is.

I'm glad someone in the press will ask the relevant questions, like: ''Why is this lying asshole not under arrest?''

- You never know what you can get until you ask.

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Response to DeSwiss (Original post)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:53 AM

26. The responsibility for enforcing lying to Congress lies with the body itself, not law enforcement

So, take it up with your Congress critters. I'm sure they will get right on it. Nothing as swift as a Congress of opposing forces.

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