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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:29 PM

Rick Santorum Says Hed Criminally Charge Abortion Providers





4:47 pm, February 18th
Rick Santorum Says Hed Criminally Charge Abortion Providers

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The 2011 clip, which Buzzfeed dug up, shows Santorum on Meet The Press. In it, he claims that abortion-providing doctors should face legal consequences:

I believe that life begins at conception. And that that life should be guaranteed under the constitution I would advocate that any doctor that performs an abortion should be criminally charged for doing so.


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http://www.thejanedough.com/rick-santorum-criminally-charge-abortion-doctors/


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Reply Rick Santorum Says Hed Criminally Charge Abortion Providers (Original post)
Tx4obama Feb 2012 OP
TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #1
niyad Feb 2012 #3
NYC Liberal Feb 2012 #7
Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #12
papa3times Feb 2012 #14
Generic Other Feb 2012 #25
CTyankee Feb 2012 #24
niyad Feb 2012 #2
TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #5
Ilsa Feb 2012 #6
proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #4
Galraedia Feb 2012 #8
Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #19
Grassy Knoll Feb 2012 #9
Bette Noir Feb 2012 #10
David__77 Feb 2012 #11
center rising Feb 2012 #13
joanbarnes Feb 2012 #15
Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #20
ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #16
Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #21
zbdent Feb 2012 #17
MarkCharles Feb 2012 #18
Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #22
MarkCharles Feb 2012 #23

Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:15 PM

1. Women Will Be Next

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:16 PM

3. that is understood when he says something that stupid

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:32 PM

7. But they won't actually say it.

Well, maybe Santorum is bat-shit crazy enough that he would.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:05 AM

12. If abortion is murder? Santorum's logic commits him to arrest women who get abortions, as murderers

Right now, Ricky Santorum is saying that he will 1) first, legally prosecute abortion doctors.

The next step though? 2) Logically, if the embryo is a full human person, then killing one is murder. So that? Santorum is logically committed next, to prosecute doctors as ... murderers.

And then? Though HE DISAVOWS this LOGICAL OUTCOME, I suppose he would also, by his own fatal logic, be bound to 3) prosecute the millions of women that get abortions, as murderesses.

Here's the logic: if embryos are persons, and an abortion kills them, then an abortion kills a person. Therefore, abortion is murder. And since it is murder? It must be prosecuted.

So next? Santorum will apparently be 4) gathering up a special group of para-military Catholic police, to round up millions of women. And 5) take them to prison, and/or execution?

Or maybe 6) Santorum will burn them as witches, or as Protestants?

Anti-abortion extremists like Santorum, and EWTN/RN, and Priests for Life, are very, very dangerous idiots. They don't really know what absurdities and horrors, would logically result, if anyone took them seriously.

There's a long discussion on this and related issues, in the DU "Topics" section, Subsection "Health," sub-sub topic "Pro Choice": http://www.democraticunderground.com/1152257

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Response to Brettongarcia (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:18 AM

14. abortion is abortion

Don't forget spontaneous abortions(miscarriages), women would be open to criminal prosecution for murder if they had a miscarriage according to the logic of this hate filled idealogue.

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Response to papa3times (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:48 AM

25. He also believes birth control is abortion

So women will be charged with murder for using it?

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 03:44 AM

24. Oh, they're smart enough to know that women will suffer plenty if the docs are threatened!

All we have to do is go back to the days when abortion was illegal. Those dirty illegal abortions were very efficient killers and maimers of women. They were regular "customers" in Emergency Rooms all across the nation.

ANTI-ABORTION LAWS KILL WOMEN!

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:15 PM

2. hey, froth boy, in case you didn't notice, ABORTION IS STILL LEGAL

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Response to niyad (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:33 PM

5. Remember What Newt Said

Remember what Newt said about the law. They had a right to overlook laws they believe are not correct. Sanitorum believes the same thing. He believes he can overlook such legal nuisances.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:54 PM

6. Reframe your comment.

"Newt and Santorum believe they are above the law."

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:25 PM

4. But the doctor who performed his wife's abortion . . .

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:38 PM

8. Rick is a theocrat.

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Response to Galraedia (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:17 PM

19. Or Ayatollah. Or "Theo-Con" as they were called; theological neo-con. Or "American Taliban."

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:29 AM

9. Repukkks will lose in 2012........

for being, well, IDIOTS.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:25 AM

10. This is why our guy leads among single women by more than a 2/1 margin.

When "The Handmaid's Tale" came out, I said it was about what would happen if Pat Robertson (who was running at the time) was elected. substitute "Rick Santorum" for "Pat Robertson," and it's still true.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:09 AM

11. That's what being "pro-life" means.

If you believe abortion is murder, then of course you would hold this view. But abortion is NOT murder, and fetuses are NOT children. Santorum is simply more honest.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:11 AM

13. Hey little Ricky, in this country, abortion is LEGAL

What a tool!!!

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:34 AM

15. ..And any boy who performs masturbation should be prosecuted for killing sperm.

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Response to joanbarnes (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:23 PM

20. "Every sperm is sacred," the Church tried to say, c. 1950-66

A view which was justly lampooned by Monty Python, Jimmy Buffett, and the film Legally Blonde.

If every sperm is a human being, and the average sex act wastes 100,000 of them? Then every male on earth is a mass murderer.

Declaring blastocysts to be fully human, puts us onto the slippery slope to absurdity.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:43 AM

16. He misquoted the Constitution.

The Constitution does not contain the phrase "endowing by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." That is the Declaration of Independence. But knowledge of American history and law is so passe.

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Response to ChadwickHenryWard (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:25 PM

21. Then too? Only persons have rights; and Roe v. Wade sec. IX, stipulates embryo is not a person

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:59 PM

17. So he supports the Death Penalty for doctors who provide abortions ... ?

how about doctors who cannot save patients? How about businesses who, knowingly negligent, put out products which lead to the death of fetuses?

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:59 PM

18. So he will be judge and jury, convicting people of a crime...

 

that doesn't exist?

Rick, I think you failed freshman criminal law, ... no... you failed junior high school civics.


Unless something changed while the Republicans were in the majority of the House in the last 13 months, AND unless the Supreme Court overturned Roe V Wade while I wasn't looking, abortion is NOT A CRIME in ANY of the 50 states and U.S. Territories!!

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Response to MarkCharles (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:29 PM

22. Its not a crime - yet. But a dozens states are trying to declare the embryo a full human "person."

If that is voted in? And then passes constitutional/SCOTUS review? Then abortion would be automatically considered to be ... murder.

Then Santorum could run around jailing millions of women, or burning them at the stake. For being murders, witches, or Protestants.

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Response to Brettongarcia (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:46 PM

23. Such laws will be challenged under Roe v Wade

 

States may not unilaterally rescind rights already granted to any group or individual without due process.

A challenge would immediately invoke a stay of execution on any such law, however enacted, subject to federal judicial review.

Roe v Wade is the law of the land until such time as the Constitution of the US rescinds that through Amendment. It's simple Constitutional law. Any good Constitutional law professor would teach you that....oh wait... he's kind of busy now, he's busy being President.

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