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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:41 PM

Bush's conspiracy gaffe on ABC

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Reply Bush's conspiracy gaffe on ABC (Original post)
jakeXT Apr 2013 OP
AndyA Apr 2013 #1
CJCRANE Apr 2013 #2
reformist2 Apr 2013 #9
Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #13
BaronChocula Apr 2013 #18
RufusTFirefly Apr 2013 #23
TDale313 Apr 2013 #3
AAO Apr 2013 #24
TDale313 Apr 2013 #25
AAO Apr 2013 #32
Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #4
jakeXT Apr 2013 #7
Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #16
Enrique Apr 2013 #5
tomp Apr 2013 #28
They_Live Apr 2013 #6
Botany Apr 2013 #8
AnotherDreamWeaver Apr 2013 #10
tomp Apr 2013 #27
AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #11
Politicalboi Apr 2013 #12
Euphoria Apr 2013 #14
Name removed Apr 2013 #15
JDPriestly Apr 2013 #17
summerschild Apr 2013 #26
zebonaut Apr 2013 #19
Jack Rabbit Apr 2013 #20
Blue Owl Apr 2013 #21
Botany Apr 2013 #22
trusty elf Apr 2013 #29
midnight Apr 2013 #30
Renew Deal Apr 2013 #31
Bucky Apr 2013 #33
burnodo May 2013 #34
PCIntern May 2013 #35

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:44 PM

1. Jerk. Crook. Liar. Worst. pResident. Ever.

The man should be in jail. He should have lots of friends in there with him, too. Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, for starters...

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:46 PM

2. Conspiracy just means a secret, illegal plot

so, strictly speaking, Bush was correct even according to the official story.

But Frank Luntz or whoever obviously told him to say "organized plot" instead of "conspiracy".

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:03 PM

9. Yep. I think he wears an earpiece so his handlers can tell him what to say.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:24 PM

13. +1

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 02:55 PM

18. Yeah

I think this is nitpicking a bit. Bush bears so much more low-hanging fruit.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:19 PM

23. +1. Except for the Frank Luntz angle, this is an utter non-issue

Any attempts to play "gotcha" with Dubya's almost use of "conspiracy" is a total waste of time and energy and shows complete ignorance of the word's meaning.

No one who understands the meaning of the word would dispute that 9/11 was a conspiracy. Where the disagreement lies is in who the "evildoers" behind that particular conspiracy were.



Bush's "gaffe" was tantamount to his saying "Bible" instead of "Scripture" (or, heaven forbid, "country" instead of "Homeland.")

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:47 PM

3. Ok, I understand...

Not wanting to necessarily use the word conspiracy because of the connotations, but to play devil's advocate...

If multiple people plan a criminal act, isn't that kinda by definition a conspiracy to commit said act?

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:36 PM

24. It's an agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Nothing more. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

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Response to AAO (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:50 PM

25. Who me?

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:19 PM

32. LOL!

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:49 PM

4. Using the word "conspiracy" is only proof that he's an idiot.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:01 PM

7. You can practically see his remaining brain cells fighting what to say

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 02:49 PM

16. Yeah,...in slow motion.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:50 PM

5. it was a conspiracy among the 19 hijackers

making something out of this reminds me of rightwing attacks on Obama that simply don't make any sense.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:14 AM

28. why don't you go to....

...www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html (for example) and answer the questions posed by the 9/11 families. when you have done that we can see if your anti-conspiracy attitude is worth a damn. let's see how much sense you make.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:56 PM

6. It was a conspiracy by definition

no matter what theory you believe because it was not carried out by one person.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:03 PM

8. The man is an idiot. He can not even complete a single sentence without stumbling.

How the hell did he ever get to be POTUS?

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:13 PM

10. The supreme court stopped the vote count and gave it to him. n/t

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:07 AM

27. still, 50 mill people voted for him....

....give or take a little vote tampering.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:14 PM

11. Maybe he was going to say 'concerted attack'?

This seems to be in reference to the follow-up explosion in West, Texas, before people knew if it was an industrial accident, or malicious act, like the Boston Marathon bombing.

There's more than one word in the dictionary that starts with 'Co'.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:18 PM

12. "It's really hard to protect the homeland"

Yeah, just ask the Pentagon with 40 minutes notice. Billions on DEFENSE, but they failed miserably, and no one wants any explanation.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:35 PM

14. He will eventually spill all the beans he's got

not many but enough!!

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 02:54 PM

17. Why does he insist on saying "Homeland" and not "America"?

Sorry, but I know German, and that word homeland smacks of Heimat which is OK in German but which in English has uncomfortable, NAZI associations.

Why do they use that term? It was never used when I was growing up.

It seems to have been brought in during the Rove/Cheney/Bush period. I don't like it at all.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:23 AM

26. You nailed the period it surfaced.


The neocon PNAC crowd brought it in. It sure does smack of their fascist roots.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:30 PM

19. FYI We don't live in the "Homeland"

That is some sort of racist nazi Texas term; but I don't use it. No one should. Maybe in his mind; bush lives in the "Homeland"; but the rest of us are United States Citizens. Of course in bush's Universe; he is a great hero; and a great President. Some sort of Parallel world.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:33 PM

20. When was the Frat Boy ever concerned about having the facts?

He took us to war against Iraq with having any.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 05:13 PM

21. Heh heh -- Huh?

Whoops...

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:24 PM

22. 9/11 and the wars were just so funny

that video was picture into W's sick mind.

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Response to Botany (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:29 AM

29. That idiotic smirk of his is just so wildly inappropriate.

What an ass!

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 10:36 AM

30. At first he thought it was another con..... I hear it...

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:01 AM

31. I don't think he said anything strange

The problem is that "conspiracy" is a radioactive word. He was smart to catch himself.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:59 PM

33. watch your step

I'd hate to see you stub your toe on that bar you just lowered.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 12:16 AM

34. what exactly did he say?

 

I realized this man was an idiot during the 2000 republican convention, so I have zero interest in watching him speak at any length.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 07:07 AM

35. I defy anyone to find video of anyone in public life in America who is a

worse orator than this guy. I have never seen anyone run for dogcatcher who is this impaired - in every sense - publically.

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