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Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:35 AM

Democrats Are the New Republicans

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Reply Democrats Are the New Republicans (Original post)
02potato Mar 2013 OP
maddiemom Mar 2013 #1
Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #2
Cleita Mar 2013 #5
Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #8
Cleita Mar 2013 #10
Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #12
graham4anything Mar 2013 #26
zeemike Mar 2013 #3
fasttense Mar 2013 #4
Cleita Mar 2013 #6
antigop Mar 2013 #7
L0oniX Mar 2013 #9
Cleita Mar 2013 #11
antigop Mar 2013 #13
Cleita Mar 2013 #17
antigop Mar 2013 #21
Cleita Mar 2013 #22
graham4anything Mar 2013 #27
antigop Mar 2013 #14
dotymed Mar 2013 #15
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #16
Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #19
fascisthunter Mar 2013 #18
progressoid Mar 2013 #20
Fuddnik Mar 2013 #23
Iggo Mar 2013 #29
valerief Mar 2013 #24
colsohlibgal Mar 2013 #25
Moostache Mar 2013 #28
NCcoast Mar 2013 #30
Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2013 #31

Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:59 AM

1. ABSOLUTELY! We're not going to hear it in the MSM, except for Krugman.

Otherwise the nation is started to wake up to the fact that our supposed elected representatives are ignoring us.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:17 AM

2. This is a VERY Liberal country but you would never know it to watch Sunday Talk.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:12 PM

5. Or to watch Washington, make and enact laws. They are to the right

of even Eisenhower and Nixon.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:22 PM

8. I like the fact that Bill mentioned Kucinich.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:32 PM

10. I always supported Kucinich, but I knew he didn't have the charisma to

be elected President and the DINO democrats like Hillary and Obama that were getting all the money and support used to push him aside in every way, not letting him debate them or meeting them on a level playing field.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:35 PM

12. Kucinich has one bad habit...

When he gets excited during a speech he tends to bounce.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:56 PM

26. He was on President Obama's team. I thank him for his health care vote. It was needed, he did it.

 

He was a team player. Trouble was, he was running to show, not to win. He ran into the peter principal, instead of still being in a more appropriate office for him he went for something so far out of his reach that he took the eye off his own job and well, did not do enough pothole repair in his state to secure the victory, even with gerrymandering.

Kucinich is really just the same as Mike Bloomberg(and that is a compliment). Just overreached.
Mayor, House, Senate, Assembly.
Why is he out of office?

Jerry Brown didn't give up and whine and cry. Jerry went into very small jobs in California, and continues to this day acheiving in the public sector.

BTW, LBJ was 10,000 times MORE liberal than Kucinich ever was, on all the more important issues of the day.

BTW2-Russert took Kucinich out of the debates. Why didn't Kucinich, instead of wasting all his time anwering Russert's time wasting Conspiracy theories question with Hey Tim, why don't you STFU and ask me a relevant political question you big sellout? Why didn't Dennis question why the megarich Russert left his father in a home after making his millions writing sob stories about his father and using him? Dennis should have done that.
Strange the above post blames our 44th President and our 45th President for that.

Why not blame someone who's actual fault it was, say like any 3rd party presidential candidate over the years, who stopped what should have been 83 years of Democratic presidents.

But then some hated Adlai Stevenson too for Ike, who was some war monging dufus who in the twilight of his life said one sentence totally out of whack with his lifestyle against war, who was the first to use a nickname later perfected by the Bush family.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:29 AM

3. And as long as we play this game with them they will win.

And I see little hope that things will change because we have sheepherders in our own party that keep us in the flock with threats of the crazies taking over.
Fuck it...the crazies have taken over...and punking us every day.
K&R for two guys that get it..

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:48 AM

4. Well, Obama himself has come out and said he was a RepubliCON.

So, those who really believe we have 2 parties still are really not listening to what Obama is telling them.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:17 PM

6. It's pretty obvious when he says Lincoln is his hero.

I was never a supporter of him. I like him and I think he's a cool dude with a beautiful family and I'm proud for him and them to be the face of America to the world, but I would have preferred a real liberal for President for a change and that wasn't Hillary Clinton for me either. I would want a President like a Paul Wellstone. I'm certain there is someone out there who can fill Wellstone's shoes and who could run for President, which I'm sure Paul Wellstone would have, had he lived long enough.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:19 PM

7. but, but, but, we have to accept the "inevitability" of Hillary in 2016, don't we? nt

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Response to antigop (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:26 PM

9. ...and the worshippers can't wait for Chelsea to enter the "game".

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Response to antigop (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:33 PM

11. I hope not. I don't know who though will be our Paul Wellstone. n/t

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Response to Cleita (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:38 PM

13. Serious question...do you really think the TPTB will allow a "Paul Wellstone" to win the nomination?

TPTB -- the powers that be

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Response to antigop (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:54 PM

17. No doubt, however, it's what this nation needs to save itself and the planet.

I'm still of the opinion he was killed and they will kill or dishonor anyone who gets close. Look what they did to Howard Dean. I really don't have any answers.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:25 PM

21. a close friend suggested the following.. don't know if it would work or not

Convince people to vote in the primary for the candidate who takes the least amount of corporate money.

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Response to antigop (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:28 PM

22. I guess that could be done in states that have open primaries. Otherwise you have to

vote for candidates in the party you are registered for but I think I always did that anyway. I would go to Open Secrets to find out who were their major donors. Not quite voting for the least corporate money but making sure the corporations were progressive ones that supported progressive causes and unions.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:01 PM

27. Michelle Obama46/John Schlossberg 2024, reelect them in 2028 after Hillary45.

 

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:39 PM

14. Thanks for posting this video. K&r. nt

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:40 PM

15. Is there any way (organization) that this clip

can be televised as much as "the credit report song?"
America IS a liberal country (Progressive), just like most citizens of the world. Except maybe some religious countries where they actually believe the propaganda. That is what "they" are trying to do to Americans.

Goddamnit, we have to make a stand. Occupy was a start. IMO, the movement (beside being trivialized by the MSM) was too restrained by all of the committees that their proclamations went through.
Maybe, (it is Spring) we can have a movement where all of the goals are pre-defined (like publicly financed elections) and no more proclamations are made until we reach that goal.
We will only get a real representative government through relentless civil unrest. The wealthy have been relentless in their class war even though most of it has been covert.
We must be overt and educate the people to get a real representative government. At this point we are just slaves while the privileged few have their own laws and limitless resources.
Fight or die and we will die a million deaths living as cowards. When I say "fight", hopefully it is not physical. The people know they are being treated as non-citizens unless they are wealthy..this includes our armed services and policeman/women. Sadly, many of them have bought into the lie...that is where education comes in.
If we just keep abiding by the "law" we will never be real, free human beings.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:47 PM

16. Thousands should take over the Supreme Court...

 

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Response to dotymed (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:03 PM

19. There is one way.

"Is there any way (organization) that this clip can be televised as much as "the credit report song?"

Somebody could pay to have it viewed or shared via a video sharing site, such as shareyoutubevideos.com. I use it all the time to get my videos noticed.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:55 PM

18. nice to see someone on tv say this

Democrats in name only.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:12 PM

20. Rec.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:29 PM

23. Kick and Rec.

The truth hurts

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:14 PM

29. ...but not as much as ignoring it.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:33 PM

24. K&R one gazillion

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:41 PM

25. On The Whole A Big Yes

There are some outliers, a few real progressive dems such as Alan Grayson, but the official Big D party apparatus is what republicans largely were post FDR and pre ex "B" actor Ronald Reagan. This started under Clinton and he recently admitted he was wrong about some things back then.

The different in dynamics between the far right and the far left is weird, mainstream republicans are being pushed further right because they're scared of a primary challenge from tea party types, while dems take the progressive voters for granted, shaft us, and get away with it time after time.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:21 PM

28. Wasn't this clip from FOUR YEARS AGO?!?!

Sad to see we have made no progress at all, unless moving in reverse is counted as progress....

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:19 PM

30. This is what I've been saying for years

And deregulated media ownership is to blame. We need to publicly fund elections and break up the media death stars, jobs one and two.

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Response to 02potato (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:32 PM

31. Definitely agree

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Just got a sheet that summarizes their activity for 2012 - some examples:

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$195,149 for Planned Parenthood
$103,000 for Earthjustice
$95,290 for Amnesty International
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$89,455 for Mother Jones Investigative Fund
$141,307 for Doctors Without Borders

Altogether there are 40 organizations that have shared nearly $3 million from Credo customers donations. Oh, and when you call Credo, you get a courteous, live person FAST!

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