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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:49 PM

Republican Disgrace: Pre-Existing Conditions Like Totaled Car or Burned Down House



From: www.davidpakman.com

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Reply Republican Disgrace: Pre-Existing Conditions Like Totaled Car or Burned Down House (Original post)
celtics23 Feb 2013 OP
truth2power Feb 2013 #1
another_liberal Feb 2013 #6
DhhD Feb 2013 #7
RC Feb 2013 #2
bulloney Feb 2013 #3
AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #4
another_liberal Feb 2013 #5
radiclib Feb 2013 #8
DeSwiss Feb 2013 #9

Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:32 PM

1. Dear God! Who are these people? Are they some sort of pod-people from another planet

or what?

David Packman says Huckabee used to be a pastor.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:12 PM

6. He may be a former pastor . . .

He may be a former pastor, but he's serving the twin evils of money and power now.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:47 PM

7. He was a pastor. And then he was governor of Arkansas. While he was governor, he allowed dangerous

criminal who were serving time for felonies out on an exchange program to go to other states and walk, as a form of rehabilitation. One of these violent criminals murdered four Oregon policemen in a restaurant minding their own business.

In my opinion, he has very little empathy; a true sociopath.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:20 PM

2. Well, when money is your god, and you have lots of money...

 

And when someone that doesn't have any money might do something to keep some of that money from you - What do you expect?

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:32 PM

3. And I'll bet Huckabee and those 3 Faux Snooze stooges all call themselves "pro life," too.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:59 PM

4. Putting on my devil's advocate hat here.

Huckabee is correct as long as you think of healthcare as a market, and while regulated, we have that. Pakman is equating health insurance with health care. They are not the same. I will grant Huckabee his market based insurance, as long as we have something else for the people who can't pay, like single payer. You can have both. Germany is an example.

In Germany, you get X basic minimum health CARE regardless of insurance, if you want insurance on top of that, go for it. We would be LUCKY to implement Germany's model in the US, it would be vastly superior and CHEAPER than what we have.


Of course, people like Huckabee would recoil in horror from something like Single Payer, so he's still a douchebag, but within the context of a market for INSURANCE what he said was totally correct. And makes a strong case for going BEYOND an insurance market, and implement HEALTH CARE via single payer or some similar system.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:07 PM

5. Single Payer for everyone!

The governor is making a perfect argument for why the United States should eliminate for-profit, private insurance middlemen and go to a Single Payer system. Only a tiny minority of greedhead wealthy creeps want health care to be seen as a privilege, the vast majority of Americans recognize health care must be treated as the right of all our people.

The wealthiest among us will have to pay marginally higher taxes to fund such a program, of course, but what's so wrong with that? They have all the damn money, after all, and they made it off of the poor and the middle class to begin with! Why shouldn't they give something back? It's not like they won't be filthy rich anymore even if they do.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:31 PM

8. Huckabee is exactly right.

Insurance companies are in the profit business, and as such, cannot be forced to take on losing propositions. They have a fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders to maximize profits.
This is exactly why insurance companies should not be allowed to sell health coverage. It's a no-brainer, and just another huge thing this country can't get right.
Thanks to Huckabee for making the fucking point.

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Response to celtics23 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:36 PM

9. And the Reverend Mike Huckabee preacheth thy word, saying:

''For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. But when thine old tumor cometh back and I toldeth thee to hit thine road sucka.''

- I love the old KJ version, don't you?

K&R

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