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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:25 PM

Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?



broadcast on BBC1 27 March 2011

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Reply Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools? (Original post)
WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2013 OP
Kali Feb 2013 #1
onwardsand upwards Feb 2013 #2
02potato Feb 2013 #3
Tempest Feb 2013 #4
Shadowflash Feb 2013 #5
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #6
demwing Feb 2013 #9
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #10
demwing Feb 2013 #11
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #12
AlbertCat Feb 2013 #17
demwing Feb 2013 #18
AlbertCat Feb 2013 #20
AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #13
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #16
AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #14
demwing Feb 2013 #7
robbob Feb 2013 #8
demwing Feb 2013 #19
AlbertCat Feb 2013 #15
Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #21
RebelOne Feb 2013 #22
Gorp Feb 2013 #23

Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:27 PM

1. sure

great example of poor thinking skills, lack of logic, utter inability to understand science.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:49 PM

2. As a tribal myth, alongside other tribal creation myths, sure.

Every primitive tribe has had its own creation myth. Here's a compilation of some of them:

http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSIndex.html

Representing the biblical creation myth as somehow more legitimate than any of the others is just ethnocentrism.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:02 PM

3. He's talkin' crazy talk.

Let teach that gravity is a theory also...

c'on somebody throw a chair..

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:20 PM

4. As soon as they can prove with scientific evidence god exists.

That would be good enough for me.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:21 PM

5. Sure

And while we're at it we can teach reproductive biology along side the 'stork theory'.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:31 PM

6. Only if ridiculed as myth.

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:51 PM

9. your pre-edit post was better, IMO

no need to be mean spirited.

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Response to demwing (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:11 PM

10. I reconsidered my opinion (cont)

 

I believe it is time that we put stone age myths and fantasies behind us. This needs to happen if we are to advance as a society. Magical thinking should be labelled as such and rejected. ALL of it.

Jesus the Jewish Zombie is no more REAL than the Tooth Faerie, Vushnu, Thor, or Spiderman -- and children should be taught this so that they know.

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:13 PM

11. If you believe that will ever happen

then you have no business mocking the beliefs of others

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Response to demwing (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:15 PM

12. Touche! In any case, it's something to work towards, and we are making progress

 

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Response to demwing (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:08 PM

17. If you believe that will ever happen

EVER happen? EVER is a long time.

I'm sure you would have said the same thing to "When we put Zeus and Hera behind us and teach them as myth" in 800 BCE.


Christianity can pass away just like any other religion.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:19 PM

18. Because the OP mentioned other deities

I inferred he/she was referring to religion in general.

Christianity will probably go the way of Zeus, but i don't think humans will give up religion. I think it's a part of what we are, of course ymmv.

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Response to demwing (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:38 PM

20. I think it's a part of what we are

Seems to be instinctive.... like language

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:21 PM

13. "Jesus the Jewish Zombie"? It may be that the myth was created by a Roman emperor.

 

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:54 PM

16. Interesting. In any case, there is no need to teach it as anything but myth n/t

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:22 PM

14. Agreed

 

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:50 PM

7. Absolutely

in private schools, please have at it 100%

In public schools? not so much, bubba.

Only within a sociology framework, and only as a comparison between the various creation accounts.

Never as an alternative to science, never showing preference to one story over another.



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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:51 PM

8. Can you imagine people in the USA actually sitting down to discuss this?

...without chairs being thrown?

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Response to robbob (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:28 PM

19. Not a chance

in fact, fear of divine judgement is one of the root motivations for our national socio-political behavior and mindset.

To some, making an argument against God is not rational or scientific, it's evil. The more effort you direct toward that end, the more violent the opposition you will face.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:38 PM

15. That 1st twit is so full of it.

His straw-man argument is sophomoric. "We need to look at the science carefully" Uh.... I think they (scientists) did that already. Peer review, y'know, is essential for a theory to be accepted.

And don't many religious people just think Natural Selection is something a god came up with anyway? Evolution doesn't lead to atheism....rational thought does.

So teach it in theology class (with all the other creation myths).... but not science class.

Also, anyone who thinks the Earth is just thousands of years old need not be listened to on such a subject. I'm sorry, but such a view is not EQUALLY respectable as the scientific one or deserves such respect.

I'm sorry but if one wants to be taken seriously, one must get with the program. His religion and faith no doubt give HIM great comfort and joy, but that is HIS, not everyone's So too his problem with evolution....it's HIS problem and need not concern those of us who follow evidence rationally to where it leads.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:27 PM

21. K&R

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:13 PM

22. Yes, but only as a fairy tale. n/t

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:05 PM

23. I don't have a problem with that. Many schools have courses in mythology.

 

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