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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:54 PM

TEPCO releases video footage of Fukushima Daiichi Reactor 3 spent fuel pool



This is where the "spent" plutonium-uranium fuel rods lie for, ah, safekeeping.

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Reply TEPCO releases video footage of Fukushima Daiichi Reactor 3 spent fuel pool (Original post)
Octafish Feb 2013 OP
AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #1
Octafish Feb 2013 #12
padruig Feb 2013 #2
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #6
Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #3
Octafish Feb 2013 #13
Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #14
formercia Feb 2013 #4
Octafish Feb 2013 #10
formercia Feb 2013 #21
stonecutter357 Feb 2013 #5
another_liberal Feb 2013 #7
B Stieg Feb 2013 #8
Octafish Feb 2013 #9
judesedit Feb 2013 #11
AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #19
MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #15
SCVDem Feb 2013 #16
johnnyreb Feb 2013 #17
AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #20
blackspade Feb 2013 #18

Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:24 PM

1. What a mess.

However, the fuel racks look pretty intact, so, from what can be seen of them, that's good. Or, less bad anyway.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:02 PM

12. Agree: Less bad is better than bad. But, Fukushima Daiichi NPP, is really, really, really bad.

It's not in the news much. There's little good science. And TEPCO are world class liars and incompetents.

As are our own nookyoolar leadership:



Researchers call for nuclear data release

Trove of data from Fukushima and beyond could improve nuclear monitoring and benefit research.

Geoff Brumfiel
Nature
13 June 2011

Shortly after a massive tsunami struck the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on 11 March, an unmanned monitoring station on the outskirts of Takasaki, Japan, logged a rise in radiation levels. Within 72 hours, scientists had analysed samples taken from the air and transmitted their analysis to Vienna, Austria — the headquarters of the Preparatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), an international body set up to monitor nuclear weapons tests.

It was just the start of a flood of data collected about the accident by the CTBTO's global network of 63 radiation monitoring stations. In the following weeks, the data were shared with governments around the world, but not with academics or the public. Now scientists working with the CTBTO on behalf of member states are calling for the data to be released, both to give other researchers an opportunity to use them, and to improve the network's performance.

"What I'm after is to make this dataset available to the scientific community," says Wolfgang Weiss, head of the department of radiation protection and health at Germany's Federal Office for Radiation Protection in Munich. In the coming weeks and months he hopes to persuade member nations overseeing the CTBTO to approve new rules for sharing data with other international bodies and scientific researchers.

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Those monitoring stations pick up other things as well. In the latest crisis, the network's sensitive radiation detection sensors were overwhelmed by radioisotopes streaming out of the damaged reactors at Fukushima Daiichi. Monitoring posts picked up isotopes such as iodine-131 and caesium-137 that were of concern to public health officials in other countries. Other radioisotopes such as niobium-95 and rubidium-103 were an early indicator of a meltdown inside one or more of the reactors.

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http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110613/full/news.2011.366.html



So why are Fukushima Radiation Data Quarantined by Governments of Japan and the United States.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:27 PM

2. spent fuel rod tank (the moon pool)


These shots are underwater in or just above the spent fuel rod tank. There is no discernible glow characteristic of rods or fragments remaining in the tank itself. TEPCO should be able to confirm how many rods were in the tank prior to the seismic event.

One of the engineering flaws of the Fukushima facility was that the tanks were located far above ground level, parallel to the top of the reactor vessel to minimize the exposure when rods were being moved out of the reactor during refueling. Because of damage suffered, these tanks could rupture losing the water and exposing the rods which would start to heat up rapidly and potentially start to burn and releasing high levels of radioactivity into the air column to be carried by winds.

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Response to padruig (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:12 PM

6. This disasterous design isn't unique to Fukushima. There are similar plants in

the good ole USofA.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:33 PM

3. Ongoing corrosion give the pool less than 9 years before being exposed to air.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:15 PM

13. The situation is dire and it's not being reported accurately, thanks to TEPCO and Friends.

The picture becomes clear: TEPCO blames the tsunami rather than the earthquake because making the nuclear fleet earthquake-proof is too expensive.



Real cause of nuclear crisis

SENTAKU MAGAZINE
Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2011

Tokyo Electric Power Co. (Tepco), the operator of the stricken Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Station, has been insisting that the culprit that caused the nuclear crisis was the huge tsunami that hit the plant after the March 11 earthquake. But evidence is mounting that the meltdown at the nuclear power plant was actually caused by the earthquake itself.

According to a science journalist well versed in the matter, Tepco is afraid that if the earthquake were to be determined as the direct cause of the accident, the government would have to review its quake-resistance standards completely, which in turn would delay by years the resumption of the operation of existing nuclear power stations that are suspended currently due to regular inspections.

The journalist is Mitsuhiko Tanaka, formerly with Babcock-Hitachi K.K. as an engineer responsible for designing the pressure vessel for the No. 4 reactor at the ill-fated Fukushima nuclear plant.

He says if the earthquake caused the damage to the plumbing, leading to a "loss-of-coolant accident (LOCA)" in which vaporized coolant gushed into the containment building from the damaged piping, an entirely new problem — "vulnerability to earthquake resistance of the nuclear reactor's core structure" — would surface and that this will require a total review of the government's safety standards for nuclear power plants in Japan, which is quite frequently hit by earthquakes.

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http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20111213a1.html



Perhaps they are betting that in the long run it won't make any difference to the ratepayers in the long term.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:26 PM

14. Agree, your looking at a huge chuck of Japan and poisoning vast swaths of the ocean, not to mention

eventually the West Coast.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:52 PM

4. Hopefully, this will be the end for MOX Fuel

The explosion showed how unstable it is.

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:56 PM

10. A Public Service Announcement on Plutonium

Last edited Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:32 PM - Edit history (1)



DOE-STD-1128-98

Guide of Good Practices for Occupational Radiological Protection in Plutonium Facilities


EXCERPT...

4.2.3 Characteristics of Plutonium Contamination

There are few characteristics of plutonium contamination that are unique. Plutonium
contamination may be in many physical and chemical forms. (See Section 2.0 for the many
potential sources of plutonium contamination from combustion products of a plutonium fire
to radiolytic products from long-term storage.) The one characteristic that many believe is
unique to plutonium is its ability to migrate with no apparent motive force. Whether from
alpha recoil or some other mechanism, plutonium contamination, if not contained or
removed, will spread relatively rapidly throughout an area.


SOURCE (PDF file format): http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2013/07/f2/doe-std-1128-98_cn2.pdf

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Response to Octafish (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:18 AM

21. Nasty Stuff

The US almost had a Fast-Breeder program, but luckily, the defective fuel rods were discovered in time and the project was cancelled. Can you imagine what it would have been like, had a Fukushima type event had occurred in Hanford WA?

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:15 PM

5. K&R

we have no idea what we're doing

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:39 PM

7. I think I saw Waldo!

He's wearing a striped sock hat, and he's waving! Everything must be just fine.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:38 PM

8. Well, we can't handle this...

...but we sure know what we're doing when it comes to (not) regulating guns!

Aren't we just amazing!

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:50 PM

9. You hit the nuclear nail on the head.

Same crowd that likes to keep others down, the six-shooter as peacemaker crowd, also likes having their itchy trigger finger on the red button and all that goes into it.

Fukushima, Plutonium, CIA, and the BFEE: Deep Doo-Doo Four Ways to Doomsday

The story connects a few dots from the present day back to World War II.



War crime, Yakuza, Secret Government. Why not?



Japan’s Nuclear Industry: The CIA Link.

By Eleanor Warnock
June 1, 2012, 10:18 AM JST.
Wall Street Journal Blog

Tetsuo Arima, a researcher at Waseda University in Tokyo, told JRT he discovered in the U.S. National Archives a trove of declassified CIA files that showed how one man, Matsutaro Shoriki, was instrumental in jumpstarting Japan’s nascent nuclear industry.

Mr. Shoriki was many things: a Class A war criminal, the head of the Yomiuri Shimbun (Japan’s biggest-selling and most influential newspaper) and the founder of both the country’s first commercial broadcaster and the Tokyo Giants baseball team. Less well known, according to Mr. Arima, was that the media mogul worked with the CIA to promote nuclear power.

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Mr. Shoriki, backed by the CIA, used his influence to publish articles in the Yomiuri that extolled the virtues of nuclear power, according to the documents found by Mr. Arima. Keen on remilitarizing Japan, Mr. Shoriki endorsed nuclear power in hopes its development would one day arm the country with the ability to make its own nuclear weapons, according to Mr. Arima. Mr. Shoriki’s behind-the-scenes push created a chain reaction in other media that eventually changed public opinion.

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Mr. Shoriki, backed by the CIA, used his influence to publish articles in the Yomiuri that extolled the virtues of nuclear power, according to the documents found by Mr. Arima. Keen on remilitarizing Japan, Mr. Shoriki endorsed nuclear power in hopes its development would one day arm the country with the ability to make its own nuclear weapons, according to Mr. Arima. Mr. Shoriki’s behind-the-scenes push created a chain reaction in other media that eventually changed public opinion.

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http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2012/06/01/japans-nuclear-industry-the-cia-link/



After President Carter was out of office, it was pretty much full-steam ahead for the Japanese bomb during the Pruneface Ronnie-Poppy Bush years. Hence, Fukushima Daiichi Number 3 and other select Japanese reactors were set up to process plutonium uranium fuels.



United States Circumvented Laws To Help Japan Accumulate Tons of Plutonium

By Joseph Trento
on April 9th, 2012
National Security News Service

The United States deliberately allowed Japan access to the United States’ most secret nuclear weapons facilities while it transferred tens of billions of dollars worth of American tax paid research that has allowed Japan to amass 70 tons of weapons grade plutonium since the 1980s, a National Security News Service investigation reveals. These activities repeatedly violated U.S. laws regarding controls of sensitive nuclear materials that could be diverted to weapons programs in Japan. The NSNS investigation found that the United States has known about a secret nuclear weapons program in Japan since the 1960s, according to CIA reports.

The diversion of U.S. classified technology began during the Reagan administration after it allowed a $10 billion reactor sale to China. Japan protested that sensitive technology was being sold to a potential nuclear adversary. The Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations permitted sensitive technology and nuclear materials to be transferred to Japan despite laws and treaties preventing such transfers. Highly sensitive technology on plutonium separation from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Savannah River Site and Hanford nuclear weapons complex, as well as tens of billions of dollars worth of breeder reactor research was turned over to Japan with almost no safeguards against proliferation. Japanese scientist and technicians were given access to both Hanford and Savannah River as part of the transfer process.

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A year ago a natural disaster combined with a man-made tragedy decimated Northern Japan and came close to making Tokyo, a city of 30 million people, uninhabitable. Nuclear tragedies plague Japan’s modern history. It is the only nation in the world attacked with nuclear weapons. In March 2011, after a tsunami swept on shore, hydrogen explosions and the subsequent meltdowns of three reactors at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant spewed radiation across the region. Like the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan will face the aftermath for generations. A twelve-mile area around the site is considered uninhabitable. It is a national sacrifice zone.

How Japan ended up in this nuclear nightmare is a subject the National Security News Service has been investigating since 1991. We learned that Japan had a dual use nuclear program. The public program was to develop and provide unlimited energy for the country. But there was also a secret component, an undeclared nuclear weapons program that would allow Japan to amass enough nuclear material and technology to become a major nuclear power on short notice.

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http://www.dcbureau.org/201204097128/national-security-news-service/united-states-circumvented-laws-to-help-japan-accumulate-tons-of-plutonium.html



Those of who have seen The World at War series on the tee vee are familiar with the black and white footage and great narrative chronicling the main events and figures of World War II. One of those episodes was entitled "The Bomb" and featured an interview with John J. McCloy, Assistant Secretary of War to President Roosevelt and President Truman.



Here's part of what Mr. McCloy said about the Atomic Bomb – the use of which he counseled only as a last resort, after warning Japan to surrender (around 7:30 mark of Part 2):

“Besides that, we’ve got a new force, a new type of energy that will revolutionize warfare, destructive beyond any contemplation. I’d said, I’d mention the bomb. Mentioning the bomb, even at that late date, in that select group, was like, it was like they were all shocked. Because it was such a closely guarded secret. It was comparable to mentioning Skull and Bones at Yale – which you’re not supposed to do.”

After the war, McCloy was the United States High Commissioner to Germany, administering the U.S. zone of occupation, making him one of the front-line leaders of the Cold War. In that capacity, one of the questionable things he did was to forgive several NAZI industrialists and war criminals.

The great cartoonist Herb Block, HERBLOCK, depicted McCloy holding open a prison door for a NAZI, while in the background Stalin took a photo (if anyone has a copy or link to the cartoon, I’d be much obliged). About 15 years later, Mr. McCloy served the nation as a member of the Warren Commission.

While he wasn’t a member of Skull and Bones, McCloy certainly worked closely with a bunch of them, including Averell Harriman and Prescott Bush. As a Wall Street and Washington insider, "Mr. Establishment" he was called, Mr. McCloy used the offices of government to centralize power and wealth. That is most un-democratic.

Mother Jones goes into detail:



The Nuclear Weapons Industry's Money Bombs

How millions in campaign cash and revolving-door lobbying have kept America's atomic arsenal off the chopping block.

— By R. Jeffrey Smith, Center for Public Integrity
Mother Jones
Wed Jun. 6, 2012 3:00 AM PDT

Employees of private companies that produce the main pieces of the US nuclear arsenal have invested more than $18 million in the election campaigns of lawmakers that oversee related federal spending, and the companies also employ more than 95 former members of Congress or Capitol Hill staff to lobby for government funding, according to a new report.

The Center for International Policy, a nonprofit group that supports the "demilitarization" of US foreign policy, released the report on Wednesday to highlight what it described as the heavy influence of campaign donations and pork-barrel politics on a part of the defense budget not usually associated with large profits or contractor power: nuclear arms.

As Congress deliberated this spring on nuclear weapons-related projects, including funding for the development of more modern submarines and bombers, the top 14 contractors gave nearly $3 million to the 2012 reelection campaigns of lawmakers whose support they needed for these and other projects, the report disclosed.

Half of that sum went to members of the four key committees or subcommittees that must approve all spending for nuclear arms—the House and Senate Armed Services Committees and the Energy and Water or Defense appropriations subcommittees, according to data the Center compiled from the nonprofit Center for Responsive Politics. The rest went to lawmakers who are active on nuclear weapons issues because they have related factories or laboratories in their states or districts.

Members of the House Armed Services Committee this year have sought to erect legislative roadblocks to further reductions in nuclear arms, and also demanded more spending for related facilities than the Obama administration sought, including $100 million in unrequested funds for a new plant that will make plutonium cores for nuclear warheads, and $374 million for a new ballistic missile-firing submarine. The House has approved those requests, but the Senate has not held a similar vote on the 2013 defense bill.

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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/nuclear-bombs-congress-elections-campaign-donations



It isn't ironic or coincidental. It is the Establishment, the in-group, the Elite, the One-Percent that’s pretty much gotten the lion’s share of the wealth created over the last 50 years. The same group that’s pretty much had their fingers on the atomic button ever since the Bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as well as profited from the development of nuclear power, nuclear weapons, and the almost continuous state of war since then. For lack of a better term, I call them the BFEE, or War Party.

PS: A hearty, if belated, welcome to DU, B Stieg!

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:00 PM

11. Ours probably aren't much different. Prove me wrong...PLEASE!

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Response to judesedit (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:01 AM

19. We have about 16 working reactors of the same generation and design.

GE MK I, and MK II containments, BWR1-5 designs. BWR6 has a MK III containment, which is probably better.

All of them are problematic if they lose ultimate heat sink for any reason.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:56 PM

15. And Japan decided they were going to open up some of their nuke plants again...

about 2 or 3 months ago, I think, over GIANT protests ...

Oh my God...

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:02 PM

16. So to be brief

We don't know what is happening with this "China Syndrome", right?

How deep has it burned?

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:24 PM

17. You mean like as in "Where's the corium?"

I dunno!! It was around here somewhere.


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Response to SCVDem (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:03 AM

20. Through the RPV but not far into the containment.

They're just dealing with decay heat now. If it was going to burn through the containment, it's had 2 years to do it. Not going to happen now.

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Response to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:40 PM

18. What a total fucking nightmare.

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