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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 05:56 PM Jun 2014

"Did Obama Know that ISIS Planned to Invade Iraq?" Mike Whitney -Some controversial/interesting bits

Did Obama Know that ISIS Planned to Invade Iraq?
by MIKE WHITNEY

It’s very likely, mainly because it achieves Obama’s strategic objective of establishing a de facto partition that will remain in effect unless al Maliki can whip up an army to retake lost ground which looks doubtful at this point.

But, here’s the glitch; al Maliki is not a quitter, and he’s not going anywhere. In fact he’s digging in his heels. He’s not going to be blackmailed by the likes of Obama. He’s going to this fight tooth and nail. And he’s going to have help too, because young Shia males are flocking to the recruiting offices to join the army and the militias. And then there’s Russia; in a surprise announcement Russian president Vladimir Putin offered to assist al Maliki in the fight against the terrorists, a move that is bound to enrage Washington.

Here’s a clip from the Daily Star:

“Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday offered Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki Moscow’s total backing for the fight against jihadist fighters who have swept across the Middle East country.

“Putin confirmed Russia’s complete support for the efforts of the Iraqi government to speedily liberate the territory of the republic from terrorists,” the Kremlin said in a statement following a phone call between the two leaders…
Russia is one of the staunchest allies of Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad and has helped prop up his regime during three years of fighting against a hotchpotch of rebel groups, including the ISIL.” ( Putin offers Iraq’s Maliki ‘complete support’ against jihadists, Daily Star)


That makes a third front in which Russia and the US will be on opposite sides. It’s just like the good old days, right? Putin seems to be resigned to the idea that Moscow and Washington are going to be at loggerheads in the future. He’s not only opposed to a “unitary world order”, he’s doing something about it, putting himself and his country’s future at risk in order to stop the empire’s relentless expansion and vicious wars of aggression. Needless to say, proxy wars like this can lead to rapid escalation which is always a concern when both parties have nuclear weapons at their disposal.

Now check this out from the Oil Price website:

“Here’s why the threat goes beyond Iraq and Syria…Modern Syria is bordered by Turkey to the north, Iraq to the east, Jordan and Israel to the south and Lebanon to the west.

‘Greater Syria’ incorporates most of the territories of each.

This is what ‘Syria’ means in the mind of Middle Easterners, says Joshua Landis, director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, and author of the respected blog SyriaComment.com

‘If we can teach people that so many Arabs still think of Syria as Greater Syria, they will begin to understand the extent to which Sykes-Picot remains challenged in the region,’ said Landis.

Sykes-Picot, of course refers to the secret agreement drawn up by two British and French diplomats — Sir Mark Sykes and Francois George-Picot — at the end of Word War I dividing the spoils of the Ottoman Empires between Britain and France by drawing straight lines in the sand.

To this day, many Arabs refuse to accept that division and think of ‘Syria’ as ‘Greater Syria.’ Some go so far as to include the Arab countries of North Africa – which from the Nile to the Euphrates forms ‘the Fertile Crescent,’ the symbol of many Muslim countries from Tunisia to Turkey. And some even go as far as including the island of Cyprus, saying it represents the star next to the crescent.

Given that, anyone who thinks ISIS will stop with Iraq is delusional.” (Insiders reveal real US aims in redrawing map of ME: Greater Syria, oil price)


Interesting, eh? So, if Mr. Landis is right, then the fracas in Iraq and Syria might just be the tip of the iceberg. It could be that Washington, Tel Aviv and Riyadh –who we think are the driving force behind this current wave of violence–have a much more ambitious plan in mind for the future. If this new method of effecting regime change succeeds, then the sky’s the limit. Maybe they’ll try the same stunt in other countries too, like Turkey, Tunisia, Cyprus, and all the way to North Africa. Why not? If the game plan is to Balkanize Arab countries wholesale and transform them into powerless fiefdoms overseen by US proconsuls and local warlords, why not go on a regime change spree?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/24/did-obama-know-that-isis-planned-to-invade-iraq/

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DJ13

(23,671 posts)
1. Correct me if I'm wrong but if Putin is on the side of Iraq's government
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 06:30 PM
Jun 2014

Wouldnt that be on the same side as Obama?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. How so? And do you have links to the "Kook Sites" that you could list so we
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jun 2014

"clueless DU'ers" could be aware enough to avoid them.

Kinda goes back to DU'ers asking Skinner on ATA what sites are to be avoided (DU Ban List) and he didn't really answer it.

SO...If you are guiding people here on DU with authority....then please post YOUR LIST. Would be interesting.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. I'm not familiar with those links...mine was to "Counterpunch" and I've not ever had anyone
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jun 2014

say to me that "Counterpunch" was a Conspiracy Website or whatever those sites you listed are about. Also...I did mention in my OP Subject Line that some parts were controversial (because I saw a snip from Rand Paul in beginning of Whitney's article...but that there were "Bits and Pieces of the Article" that were well worth the read. Our own, President Obama. seems to have URGED US since his Inauguration to try to be "Bi-Partisan" in our view points and to try to be open to all ways of thinking...even if we don't agree, in full, with someone we might find "bits and pieces" of their viewpoint worthwhile. He has governed with that view in mind... And, I don't see anything wrong with "Counterpunch" but figured a quote from RP in his introduction might set off an alarm or two....but the BODY OF HIS POST...is quite a good read.

If you take the opportunity to read the article, in full, you might also think that there are "Bits and Pieces" which are interesting, also.

I hope you will read it. You are more fair minded that you can be perceived to be....at times.
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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. What the hell does that mean?
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jun 2014

"You are more fair minded that you can be perceived to be....at times."

Nevermind.. I really don't care what your opinion is.

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