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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:46 AM Feb 2014

Why the eruption in Kiev could set off a tsunami that will engulf us all

As Ukraine burns, a stark warning from our most authoritative historian of Eastern Europe

Television pictures of revolutions can make them seem like a spectator sport.

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But the implosion of the Ukrainian state in the last 48 hours is a political earthquake.

Chaos in Kiev could set off a tsunami that will toss Western Europe from its moorings too.

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That divide is now opening up as pro-Russian districts in the East such as Kharkov and Crimea refuse to accept the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych celebrated in Kiev.

Civil war would be a tragedy for Ukraine’s people. But what makes the crisis so dangerous is the international dimension.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2565792/Why-eruption-Kiev-set-tsunami-engulf-As-Ukraine-burns-stark-warning-authoritative-historian-Eastern-Europe.html#ixzz2u8n8WYLJ







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Why the eruption in Kiev could set off a tsunami that will engulf us all (Original Post) dipsydoodle Feb 2014 OP
I think a civil war at this point is unlikely. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #1
Eastern Europe..Western Europe? There is currently a system of democracy balancing bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #2
Bring on the Soviet tanks! rgbecker Feb 2014 #3
So those weren't Soviet tanks that went into Abkhazia? Igel Feb 2014 #4

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
1. I think a civil war at this point is unlikely.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:04 AM
Feb 2014

Much speculation in the papers today that Putin won't back the seperationists. Which makes sense because the pro-Moscow crowd will regain control as soon as the "unified" opposition will devour itself again come May.

Tragedy, then farce. It is the fundamental pattern of history.

bkanderson76

(266 posts)
2. Eastern Europe..Western Europe? There is currently a system of democracy balancing
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:37 AM
Feb 2014

precariously over hot fire, being yanked by immoral politicians of the one side who are of no character and all the while be pushed on by corrupt politicians of the other side driven by greed.
Yep, you know what and where I mean and yet you smirk. Ukraine has burned and the point is made....the people have stood up and spoke.
So perhaps there is a caution for all those around the globe who witnessed....evil and corrupt...only days ago, a short week, the people of Ukraine were protesting peacefully....they finally had enough and worked on it.

rgbecker

(4,806 posts)
3. Bring on the Soviet tanks!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:47 AM
Feb 2014

They worked so well in Hungary and Czechoslovakia.....

Wait, USSR doesn't exist...never mind.

Igel

(35,191 posts)
4. So those weren't Soviet tanks that went into Abkhazia?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:23 PM
Feb 2014

And S. Ossetia?

Who knew? They must have been recently built by Russia in 1992-93.

Otherwise we're quibbling over a paint job.

Abkkhazia nonetheless had ethnic cleansing and forced resettlement while the West stood by and decided to look at Yugoslavia instead.

Then a bit later Russia got the right message from Kosovo and managed to coopt S. Ossetia.

They learned a similar kind of lesson from trans-Dniestria. It was too late for the same kind of thing in the Baltics, though. Shux.

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