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Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:44 AM

NORM SOLOMON: Google quietly joins ALEC

Roots Action has a petition to tell Google and other internet firms to get out.
In the mean time, can anyone suggest some OTHER search engines to use instead of Google?

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Quietly, Google has joined ALEC -- the American Legislative Exchange Council -- the shadowy corporate alliance that pushes odious laws through state legislatures.

In the process, Google has signed onto an organization that promotes such regressive measures as tax cuts for tobacco companies, school privatization to help for-profit education firms, repeal of state taxes for the wealthy and opposition to renewable energy disliked by oil companies.

ALEC’s reactionary efforts -- thoroughly documented by the Center for Media and Democracy -- are shameful assaults on democratic principles. And Google is now among the hundreds of companies in ALEC. Many people who’ve admired Google are now wondering: how could this be?

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McChesney adds: “Any qualms about privacy, commercialism, avoiding taxes, or paying low wages to Third World factory workers were quickly forgotten. It is not that the managers are particularly bad and greedy people -- indeed their individual moral makeup is mostly irrelevant -- but rather that the system sharply rewards some types of behavior and penalizes other types of behavior so that people either get with the program and internalize the necessary values or they fail.”

http://www.normansolomon.com/norman_solomon/2013/10/google-doing-evil-with-alec.html

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Reply NORM SOLOMON: Google quietly joins ALEC (Original post)
yurbud Oct 2013 OP
dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #1
yurbud Oct 2013 #2
dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #4
proverbialwisdom Oct 2013 #5
starroute Oct 2013 #13
dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #14
Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #17
proverbialwisdom Oct 2013 #3
Aeroette Oct 2013 #12
snagglepuss Oct 2013 #6
corkhead Oct 2013 #7
Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #10
2naSalit Oct 2013 #8
dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #15
2naSalit Oct 2013 #18
cui bono Oct 2013 #9
SDjack Oct 2013 #11
Vincardog Oct 2013 #26
Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #16
Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #19
Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #20
4dsc Oct 2013 #21
duke-rules Oct 2013 #22
Name removed Oct 2013 #23
jsr Oct 2013 #24
Bill USA Oct 2013 #25
Laelth Oct 2013 #27

Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:15 PM

1. Well, there goes my gmail.

Sane alternatives to Google:
Ixquick ( total privacy is an option)
Duc duck go..sounds nutz, but it works and keeps NO records of searches
and
Startpage..".the worlds's most private search engine."
which I prefer.
StartPage gives you 100% real Google results in complete privacy.
When you search with Startpage, we remove all identifying information from your query and submit it anonymously to Google for you. We get the results and return them to you in total privacy.

https://startpage.com/

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:19 PM

2. excellent. How about mail alternatives?

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Response to yurbud (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:24 PM

4. I just posted that very question


with a link to your story,here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101675564#top

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:13 PM

13. Startpage sounds worth trying

I've tried DuckDuckGo, but it tends to give me one page of results and then a link to continue my search at Google or Bing. It's fine if you're looking for the obvious stuff but not for anything at all obscure.

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Response to starroute (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:20 PM

14. Startpage submits your search anonymously to Google

and is just as fast.
It keeps NO data of your visit.
I have it now as my homepage, to remind me.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:04 PM

17. Thank you, I'm going to check that out. n/t

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:20 PM

3. K&R.

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.freepress.net/blog/2013/10/03/tech-titans-jump-shark

Tech Titans Jump the Shark
Amy Kroin
October 3, 2013


...Imagine if Superman paid Lex Luthor to help him stamp out kryptonite. He could rationalize the association by saying the end justified the means. But at that point he wouldn’t be Superman any longer. He would be Ethically Compromised Man.

In the last year, nearly 50 corporations — including Coca-Cola, Kraft Foods, McDonald’s, Pepsi and Wal-Mart — have left ALEC, in part because the organization came under such critical scrutiny after the Trayvon Martin shooting.

It’s time for Facebook, Google and Yelp to jump ship. Join our friends at ColorofChange.org and Sum of Us in telling these tech titans to drop their membership in ALEC.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:08 PM

12. Thanks for that info.

I signed the petition at sum of us.org.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:28 PM

6. k and r

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:33 PM

7. Maybe they're going to try to steer ALEC into being a force for good

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Response to corkhead (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:08 PM

10. By putting them into a Google autonomous drive vehicle, and then running it off a cliff?

Hmmm.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:37 PM

8. K&R

That's going to be an issue finding another email provider that isn't screwing us.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:22 PM

15. Try Opera

The browser is fast, I have it loaded and usually use it for only its email.
I am now going to open a 2nd email account on it to replace my Gmail account.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:24 PM

18. Thanks

I'll try that. Problem is informing all my contacts, more pain in the hindquarters than anything but...

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:50 PM

9. Alt search engine: duckduckgo.com

Heard about it on Thom Hartmann's show. https://duckduckgo.com/

Funny thing is, after you get your search results, if you click on the down arrow to the right of the search entry box and select something like "news" it then takes you to google's page with the news stories from your search. So... eh. Still, I use it for my first go around. I believe they don't skew your results based on your browsing history like google apparently does, so you get more variation of stories/sites on the search topic. That's what I remember Hartmann saying.


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Response to cui bono (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:15 PM

11. I use duckduckgo search engine and Opera mail. Still have work remaining to switch

out of Google mail.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:10 PM

26. I use duckduckgo search engine for anonymous searches

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:03 PM

16. K&R

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:39 PM

19. I used to use Scroogle Scraper.. here is an article from last year

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:43 PM

20. Kicked and recommended.



Thanks for the thread, yurbud.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:02 AM

21. duckduckgo.com is the alternative to google

I use most of the time now.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2013, 07:49 PM

22. GET OFF GOOGLE AND ONTO DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo is a decent search engine without all Google's bells & whistles that doesn't collect all your private info and, how should I say it, DOESN'T DO EVIL!

I still mix the two, but with this latest info on Google my wife and I will be making much, much more use of DuckDuckGo.

Hope it works for you AND me!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:07 AM

24. Recommend

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:06 PM

25. signed. recommended

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:00 PM

27. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

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