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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:52 AM

Forget Drones. The Real Problem Is “War Without Boundaries”

Let’s ignore, for a moment, the debate over killing civilians and assassinating American citizens with armed drones.
Let’s hold off on wondering whether these drones create more enemies than they kill.

Instead, let’s focus on the context in which we’re using them, and why it’s problematic.

In the Washington Post last week, Mark Jacobson called armed drones “the weapons of choice for today’s battlefield without boundaries.” For The Daily Telegraph, Con Coughlin wrote in favor of using drones by arguing that “al-Qaeda and its allies are waging a war against the West which knows no boundaries.”
This theme of a global battlefield has become common and accepted. And what Jacobson, Coughlin, and others are saying, of course, is partially true: that terrorists and gangsters are not confined by lines on a map. But somewhere along the way, we redefined the words war and battlefield.


http://nation.time.com/2013/02/13/forget-drones-the-real-problem-is-war-without-boundaries/

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dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 OP
NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1
tblue Feb 2013 #2
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #6
graham4anything Feb 2013 #3
ladjf Feb 2013 #4
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #5
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #7
valerief Feb 2013 #8
Martin Eden Feb 2013 #9
cbrer Feb 2013 #10
geek tragedy Feb 2013 #11

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:54 AM

1. Wars without End. Perpetual War.

I'm probably at just that age where I can say WTF, what ever happened to the wars that eventually end, like Viet Nam, WW2, and (sort of) Korea?

I think IKE knew what was afoot.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:06 PM

2. Without geographical or time or financial boundaries

And it's self perpetuating too. Attack > blowback > retaliate > blowback > retaliate.........

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Response to tblue (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:18 PM

6. Defense contractor's wet dream....

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:08 PM

3. This isn't the 1980s. There are no more walls,borders. It's a good thing we're not isolationists

 

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:20 PM

4. Drones are high tech snipers, high altitude "hit men". To me, it doesn't seem like a good

thing for us.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:43 PM

5. To combat this we obviously need a perpetual police state around the world.

It's only logical. And most will go willingly. Guaranteed security. Just be willing to be "chipped" like our pets.

Buddha help us.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:34 PM

7. Bush's fourth term. nt

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:52 PM

8. Why have war at all? nt

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:58 PM

9. Yes, the concept of perpetual "war" without boundaries is the **CENTRAL ISSUE** here

Regardless of the technology or methods we employ pursuant to that war.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:00 AM

10. We also redefined:

 

Enemy, cost of war, strategy, and morality

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:29 AM

11. Agreed. Drones are an instrumentality, not the main problem.

Congress needs to redefine the 2001 AUMF, and quickly.

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