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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:30 PM

Video and charts make clear the planet is still warming — and there’s only one way to stop it

by Joe Romm, originally published by Climate Progress



http://www.resilience.org/stories/2013-01-11/video-and-charts-make-clear-the-planet-is-still-warming-and-there-s-only-one-way-to-stop-it

Possibly the scariest link I've clicked on in a looong time.

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Response to polly7 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:42 PM

1. there’s only one way to stop it

lose reliance on cars.

edit to add - now.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:50 PM

4. Some hows:

- move in together
- do business at home
- MASS TRANSIT
- increase tax investments in solar energy
- grow your own food as much as possible
- reduce, reuse, recycle, and restore
- COMMIT to climate activism

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Response to polly7 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:45 PM

2. K&R for a good compilation of studies, even if it does include, cough, choke, the letters K, O, C, H

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Response to polly7 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:47 PM

3. 15000 years

 

This last bit of global warming has been going on for 15000 years. Does it make sense that cars are causing it?

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Response to Publiuus (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:05 PM

5. What you're suggesting doesn't mean that they CAN'T be the small mass that tips the inertia of a

larger mass in a more ir-retrievable direction.

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Response to patrice (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:07 PM

7. Geologic process

 

I'm suggesting it's a geologic process that had continually occurred for billions of years and will continue I occur.

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Response to Publiuus (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:13 PM

8. Sequestration? So you dispute that cars have contributed enough to speed up the, for lack of

a better term, de-sequestration (methane release from under polar sea ice, thawing of tundra etc.)?

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Response to Publiuus (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:56 PM

10. Yes, but this rate of warming hasn't been seen since the end of the last Ice Age.....

And virtually all the legit evidence out there says that certain human activities are causing much of it.

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Response to Publiuus (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:08 PM

11. Could it be that....there were other global warmings in earths' early history caused by ......

Last edited Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Natural phenoms such as.....

. Prehistoric forest fires that were never distinguished until theY burned out or put-out naturally..
. Maybe volcanoes.....
. Burnouts of underground natural resources such as underground coal, hydrocarbons, natural gas or uranium never extinguished either...
. Or even solar flares/other cosmic events?

After all, we are burning fuels that would have eventually burned anyway!!!!?....

I'm just a layman, but hydrocarbons, volcanic dusts have always been out there burning out of control. Has ozone ever dissipated naturally over earth's history....has it replenished itself...can we rebuild that layer again...do we need too?

Anyway, just saying.

Note: whatever the reason; whether it is a man made or natural phenom, we must react now!

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Response to polly7 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:56 PM

6. Well, yeah, everyone but three guys in a cave and the weather girl on channel 6 believe...

the planet is warming. And most of those believe human activity is at least a part of the cause. A large part.

But, whattaya gonna do about it? Really?

How many good Americans are gonna park their cars and take the bus? Or even buy a smaller car. Hybrids, few as there are compared to pickups, are selling to save gas money, not the planet. We've got some bus service out here, which is more than most of the country has, but the only people who use it are too poor to own a car.

Get rid of your AC, lower the heat, don't buy anything made in factories that use electricity... C'mon-- this is a country that battles Big Gulp bans like it's the end of the world, so asking us to inconvenience ourselves is out of the question. And there are several billion people living in other countries that just don't give a shit at all.

There are solutions being worked on--CO2 and methane digestors that basically suck gases out of the air. If you can't stop people from turning on the AC, then more efficient units. And so on...

But, the really, really scary possibility is that the fresh water from Greenland mixes up the salinity of the Gulf Stream and it flips course, almost immediately causing an ice age on both sides of the North Atlantic. It has happened before, but the human population wasn't near what it is now and could head south. And then there are those Milankovitch cycles...

But, my money's on that bigass volcano under Yellowstone that's overdue for an eruption. That'll wipe out most life in North America and put a huge chill on the rest of the world.

My personal philosophy is to leave the planet slightly better than I found it, to whatever extent I can. It won't make a damn bit of difference unless enough others feel the same way, but it is important to me while I accept whatever fate is in store for the planet.

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Response to polly7 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:49 PM

9. Decent article.

Last edited Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Edit: Apologies for any misunderstandings: it seems I misread the article on accident.

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