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Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:05 PM

Bill McKibben: Climate change won't wait

...It's not at all clear that President Obama understands this.

That's why his administration is sometimes peeved when they don't get the credit they think they deserve for tackling the issue in his first term in office. The measure they point to most often is the increase in average mileage for automobiles, which will slowly go into effect over the next decade.

That's precisely the kind of gradual transformation that people and politicians like. But physics isn't impressed. If we're to slow the pace of climate change we need to cut emissions globally at a sensational rate, by something like 5% a year.

It's not Obama's fault that that's not happening. He can't force it to happen, especially with Congress so deeply in debt to the fossil fuel industry. But he should at least be doing absolutely everything he can on his own authority. That might include new Environmental Protection Agency regulations, for example. And he could refuse to grant the permit for the building of the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline....
via http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-mckibben-climate-20130106,0,6917040.story

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Response to limpyhobbler (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:16 PM

1. Its going to have to

 

We've got jobs to create and elections to win

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Response to limpyhobbler (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:53 PM

2. Sadly, McKibben does have a point.

I'm not going to go as far as to say that there is no hope, or whatever, but the time for meaningful action, at least in terms of having a good chance of avoiding 2*C by 2100, is now. And sadly, that time IS running a little short.

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:50 PM

3. And remember,

 

2C is just an arbitrary, safe tic mark. Even that as a ceiling could be far more disastrous than anyone predicted a decade ago.

We're probably on the cusp of going back to an active evolution state; the universe may even "want" this. Its no big deal in the cosmic scheme of things.

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Response to NoOneMan (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:52 PM

4. You're kidding, right?

And, when I say that, I'm referring to this:

We're probably on the cusp of going back to an active evolution state; the universe may even "want" this. Its no big deal in the cosmic scheme of things.


I'm sorry, but.....this is, well, just strange(putting it nicely).

As for the 2*C ceiling, I wouldn't quite go as far to say "far more" disastrous......somewhat more may indeed be true, though. But it's also possible some things may actually not be as bad as well; I guess we'll just have to see.

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:03 PM

5. Not kidding a bit

 

Why would you think so?

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Response to NoOneMan (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:23 PM

6. I wasn't being literal, by the way. More like an SMH type statement.....

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