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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:27 PM

 

Michael Moore nails it. Guns in America

FEAR. You know, the stuff with which Republicans seek to label most (if not every) Progressive movements...

I see insight in this article. And believe it points to real solutions. And the underlying difficulty but truth, of the Progressive philosophy.


http://www.alternet.org/michael-moore-3-reasons-america-falling-apart-and-how-we-can-save-ourselves

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Reply Michael Moore nails it. Guns in America (Original post)
cbrer Dec 2012 OP
NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #1
cbrer Dec 2012 #2
hobblemo Dec 2012 #7
bongbong Dec 2012 #3
appal_jack Dec 2012 #8
yellerpup Dec 2012 #4
Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #5
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #6
Manoverde84 Dec 2012 #9
BlueJazz Dec 2012 #10

Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:33 PM

1. snippets:


MichaelMoore.com / By Michael Moore
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Michael Moore: 3 Reasons America Is Falling Apart -- And How We Can Save Ourselves
This holiday season, it is important to reflect on the root causes of America's slide.
December 24, 2012 |


1. POVERTY. If there's one thing that separates us from the rest of the developed world, it's this. 50 million of our people live in poverty. One in five Americans goes hungry at some point during the year. The majority of those who aren't poor are living from paycheck to paycheck. There's no doubt this creates more crime. Middle class jobs prevent crime and violence. (If you don't believe that, ask yourself this: If your neighbor has a job and is making $50,000/year, what are the chances he's going to break into your home, shoot you and take your TV? Nil.)

2. FEAR/RACISM. We're an awfully fearful country considering that, unlike most nations, we've never been invaded. (No, 1812 wasn't an invasion. We started it.) Why on earth would we need 300 million guns in our homes? I get why the Russians might be a little spooked (over 20 million of them died in World War II). But what's our excuse? Worried that the Indians from the casino may go on the warpath? Concerned that the Canadians seem to be amassing too many Tim Horton's donut shops on both sides of the border?

(snip)

3. THE "ME" SOCIETY. I think it's the every-man-for-himself ethos of this country that has put us in this mess and I believe it's been our undoing. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! You're not my problem! This is mine!

(snip)

I'm not saying it's perfect anywhere else, but I have noticed, in my travels, that other civilized countries see a national benefit to taking care of each other. Free medical care, free or low-cost college, mental health help. And I wonder -- why can't we do that? I think it's because in many other countries people see each other not as separate and alone but rather together, on the path of life, with each person existing as an integral part of the whole. And you help them when they're in need, not punish them because they've had some misfortune or bad break. I have to believe one of the reasons gun murders in other countries are so rare is because there's less of the lone wolf mentality amongst their citizens. Most are raised with a sense of connection, if not outright solidarity. And that makes it harder to kill one another.


I appreciate his thoughtful analysis, so much better than the dead-ended approaches I read about far too often.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:39 PM

2. Better than the totalitarian approach

 

ALL Guns...NO Guns, will never work in America

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:27 PM

7. I agree this is a thoughtful analysis

and it is much better than the knee-jerk reactions being bandied about by others. However I wonder what specific steps would be taken to solve these three rather large problems.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:39 PM

3. Moore is a life member of the NRA

 

He was quite a marksman in his youth.

Maybe some of the "liberals" in the gungeon should float his name for President at the next NRA meeting.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:41 PM

8. Regardless, he is no friend of the 2nd Amendment

Moore is welcome to advocate for his view that "We need a ban on automatic AND semiautomatic weapons and magazine clips that hold more than 7 bullets," but enacting such a policy would be an incredible (and in my opinion, awful) violation of the Second Amendment. I am not a member of the NRA, but membership or no, I would posit that Michael Moore will not be welcome in any official capacity there.

-app

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:47 PM

4. Beautiful offering from Michael Moore. n/t

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 05:55 PM

5. I have thought for a long time that our major problems.....

Are based on unwarranted fear and the reality that no one has your back in this country. The latter coinciding with his"me" comment.

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:03 PM

6. Mostly We The People

need to deal with Hate Radio and Cable "News". When the propaganda is doscontinued, getting the people back will be pretty easy

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:49 PM

9. right on the money mike

excellent points Mike!

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Response to cbrer (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:16 PM

10. As long as Americans think they're truly "The Best", nothing will ever get done...

..., in the sense of solving our domestic and other problems.

We love to talk the talk but hate to walk.

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