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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:50 AM

WWII coded message found on dead pigeon's leg

Britain's top code-breakers say they are stumped by a secret code found on the leg of a dead pigeon.

The remains of the bird were found in a chimney in Surrey with a message from World War II attached.

Experts at the intelligence agency GCHQ have been struggling to decipher the message since they were provided with it a few weeks ago.

They say it may be impossible to decode it without more information - some of which could come from the public.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20456782

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Reply WWII coded message found on dead pigeon's leg (Original post)
dipsydoodle Nov 2012 OP
jerseyjack Nov 2012 #1
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #2
SoapBox Nov 2012 #3
King_Klonopin Nov 2012 #4
dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #5
struggle4progress Dec 2012 #6

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 07:43 AM

1. I is probably Mitt's economic plan when he is president.

 

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:53 PM

2. My guesses: (1) since it's coded, it's sent from occupied Europe, not

from an observation plane; and (2) the code technique is one-time pad, so unless the code folk have kept all their WWII records, we'll never know what it says

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 10:39 PM

3. wow...

Fascinating.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:40 AM

4. A pigeon for a pigeon!

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:20 PM

5. Has World War II carrier pigeon message been cracked?

An encrypted World War II message found in a fire place strapped to the remains of a dead carrier pigeon may have been cracked by a Canadian enthusiast.

Gord Young, from Peterborough, in Ontario, says it took him 17 minutes to decypher the message after realising a code book he inherited was the key.

Mr Young says the 1944 note uses a simple World War I code to detail German troop positions in Normandy.

GCHQ says it would be interested to see his findings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20749632

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 06:24 PM

6. I think Young full of BS

His scheme is to read down and usually take the 5-letter blocks as acronyms

AOAKN = Artillery observer at 'K' Sector, Normandy
RQXSR = Requested headquarters supplement report
PABUZ = Panzer attack - blitz
UAOTA = West Artillery Observer Tracking Attack
LKXGH = Lt Knows extra guns are here
KLDTS = Know where local dispatch station is

and so on. Alleged translation is at HuffPo

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/16/world-war-2-pigeon-code-cracked_n_2311364.html

One major problem is: there's really no just possibility of communicating effectively in this manner using only acronyms

For example, in decoding RQXSR and LKXGH and KLDTS

how do we know the X in RQXSR stands for HQ but the X in LKXGH stands for EXTRA? or that that L in LKXGH signifies LT but the L in KLDTS signifies LOCAL?

Moreover, if this is based on a WWI code book, how come there's code for PANZER and BLITZ?

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