Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:16 PM
geefloyd46 (1,561 posts)
As important as any story out there from Det. Free press. The Michigan dictatorship voted out.Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
LANSING — Michigan voters have rejected the state’s toughened emergency manager law, Public Act 4 of 2011.
With 93% of precincts reporting, 52% of state voters said no to keeping the controversial law, while 48% said yes. The outcome is a blow to Gov. Rick Snyder, who was successful in opposing five proposed constitutional amendments Tuesday, including one that would have required a statewide vote on the proposed public bridge to Canada that he champions. It also puts in doubt the status of emergency financial managers in Michigan cities and school districts who have been operating under the former law, Public Act 72 of 1990, since Public Act 4 was suspended in August. And the repeal clouds the issue of the financial stability agreement between the state and the financially troubled city of Detroit, which was approved pursuant to the law. The group Stand up for Democracy, which pushed for the repeal of the emergency manager law, takes the position that the 1990 law has already been repealed and there is no emergency manager law today. Snyder argues otherwise, though there has also been discussion of passing a replacement law during the pending lame duck session of the Legislature. Full article here: http://laborspains.blogspot.com/2012/11/michigans-toughened-emergency-manager.html originally posted here: http://www.freep.com/article/20121107/NEWS15/121107008
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| geefloyd46 | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| hollysmom | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| SharonAnn | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| myrna minx | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| catbyte | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| snpsmom | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| malthaussen | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Squinch | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| geefloyd46 | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| Squinch | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| bemildred | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| geefloyd46 | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| lindysalsagal | Nov 2012 | #12 |
Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:24 PM
hollysmom (1,392 posts)
1. I can't imagine why anyone would vote yes.
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Does that mean some towns get their government and assets back?
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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
SharonAnn (9,698 posts)
2. Thanks, I was wondering how this had come out. DU is the best place for info.!
Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
myrna minx (20,560 posts)
3. It's a relief that it was voted down, but what a mess it leaves in its wake.
Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:52 PM
catbyte (4,010 posts)
4. MI voters defeated every ballot proposal. I was surprised Snyder & his minions
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didn't twist the proposal's wording to read yes means no & no means yes. I am bummed about 2 & 3 failing. Prop 3 opponents, Big Oil & Coal, called themselves the Citizen's Coalition for Clean Renewable Energy Futures or a similar lie. Wicked.
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Response to catbyte (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:06 PM
snpsmom (18 posts)
5. Prop 3 needed to be legislation
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not a constitutional amendment. I am sorry about 2, though.
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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:41 PM
Cha (125,807 posts)
6. Thank you, geefloyd and THANK YOU MICHIGAN!!
Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:51 AM
malthaussen (2,300 posts)
7. 52-48? Ya know, there's a lot of trusting people out there...
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... that is the only way I can figure it: a number of people do not have the properly skeptical, paranoid attitude towards government statements.
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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:17 AM
Squinch (3,293 posts)
8. This is a huge win, ideologically. I'm surprised DU didn't talk more about this.
Response to Squinch (Reply #8)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:28 AM
geefloyd46 (1,561 posts)
9. I agree.
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I actually went looking for the results and maybe DU writers are waiting for the dust to clear to see what this means.
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Response to geefloyd46 (Reply #9)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:32 AM
Squinch (3,293 posts)
10. I was all excited and posted a short blurb on the result when the numbers came out, and it sank
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and died. And I'm from New York!
That whole deal really was Orwellian and scary. I'm so glad it's been voted out. I'm interested to see how it shakes out. |
Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:21 AM
bemildred (67,764 posts)
11. The old law was repealed when the new one went into effect.
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They cannot both be law at the same time, and you cannot just pop the old law off the stack when the new one is thrown out.
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Response to bemildred (Reply #11)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:53 AM
geefloyd46 (1,561 posts)
13. Good point.
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Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:58 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I hear ruling will come after Thanksgiving.
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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:30 AM
lindysalsagal (1,892 posts)
12. Very important victory. Real human votes make legaleze irrelevant.
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The elected officials will have to solve their own problems.
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