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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:51 AM Sep 2012

THIS AMERICAN LIFE: When education "reform" killed a good public school

Last edited Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:33 PM - Edit history (3)

From Diane Ravitch:


A reader remembers an important radio program about school reform. Listen up.

The strike in Chicago reminded me of an episode of This American Life from 2004, 10 years after “school reform” began in Chicago. It tells the story of one amazing public school that did a lot with very little. When “reform” began, the school culture deteriorated. This is a very moving account, and worth an hour to listen.

I have been writing This American Life to do a follow up to this story, or perhaps a series of episodes on school reform. I encourage the readers to do the same.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/275/two-steps-back


RAVITCH ORIGINAL POST


If you haven't heard the show, it is rarely political, but when it is, its storytelling style delivers a powerful emotional punch.

I didn't really get why people were upset about Hurricane Katrina beyond any other natural disaster until I heard their episode on it--then I copied it and sent it to my friends and family.

Ira Glass is like the Mr. Rogers, zen master Michael Moore.

It might help if we contacted THIS AMERICAN LIFE and asked them to do a follow up or at least rebroadcast given the timeliness with the strike. It's episode 275 Two Steps Back

email address: [email protected]

Twitter: @ThisAmerLife for Chicago teachers strike replay ep. 275: Two Steps Back about a good school undone by "reform."
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my thoughts after listening to this: yurbud Sep 2012 #3
Killing good public schools is what education deform is all about. bemildred Sep 2012 #4
There was another excellent piece posted some months ago Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #5
on THIS AMERICAN LIFE or elsewhere? yurbud Sep 2012 #6
It was a review/analysis of this guy's book Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #7
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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
3. my thoughts after listening to this:
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:46 AM
Sep 2012

I listened to this on my long drive to work, and it reminded me of everything I love about teaching, and everything I hate about it.

I started out as an elementary then high school education major, and moved on to teaching college because I hated the micromanaging of teachers in K-12 that went on even 20 years ago.

The school that does well in this show is run roughly like a college: teachers make decisions about what and how to teach together, which is encouraged by their principal, and leads to markedly better test scores (even though that wasn't what they were aiming for).

The bureaucrats in their district, including at the time now Education Secretary Arne Duncan, insist on conformity with their policies and procedures, they gradually snuff out the enthusiasm of the teachers, and kids interest and achievement starts to show the consequences of that.

The corporate education "reformers" say we need privatized charter schools as "incubators of innovation," but the same people want strict regimentation of traditional schools. If they were sincere in wanting better schools, the solution is obvious, and doesn't require giving our kids to the tender mercies of Wall Street: give teachers in real public schools the room to try different things and do whatever it takes to help kids learn.

Administrators, bureaucrats, and politicians stood stick to what they know: budgeting and making sure there's enough chalk, the lights turn on, the AC works, and there's enough computers to go around. When they mess with the actual teaching, it helps about as much as Soviet central planning.

In higher ed, few teaching decisions are made by those who won't be a part of implementing them, most are made by consensus, requiring varying degrees of conformity and freedom, but never to the point that it squeezed out my own creativity and ownership of what I was doing in the classroom. Also, everywhere I have taught college, I've been evaluated by other instructors either primarily or exclusively, not remote bureaucrats or formulas.

The kind of regimentation that is killing K-12 schools is starting to creep into higher ed too, in the Trojan Horse of endlessly written and rewritten Student Learning Outcomes. I hope we figure out how to stop it before they kill us too and sell our parts to the private sector education cannibals.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Killing good public schools is what education deform is all about.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:54 AM
Sep 2012

There is no money to be made in good public schools.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. There was another excellent piece posted some months ago
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:16 PM
Sep 2012

on how in a 20-year span, a succession of "reformers" bent on fixing what wasn't broken turned one of the nation's model systems (Kansas City) into a chaotic joke

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