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Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:09 PM

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones

1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out
2. Dragons were totally real
3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."
4. Africa needs religion
5. Slave masters were nice guys
6. The KKK was A-OK
7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound
8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses
9. The Red Scare isn't over yet
10. Mark Twain and Emily Dicksinson were a couple of hacks
11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated
12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists."
13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations."
14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture

Fuller story here: http://laborspains.blogspot.com/2012/08/14-wacky-facts-kids-will-learn-in.html


Original Story: http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars

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Reply 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones (Original post)
geefloyd46 Aug 2012 OP
PDJane Aug 2012 #1
Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #2
surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #8
Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #14
nichomachus Aug 2012 #3
enlightenment Aug 2012 #4
Scuba Aug 2012 #5
enlightenment Aug 2012 #6
Scuba Aug 2012 #7
bvar22 Aug 2012 #9
Scuba Aug 2012 #10
bvar22 Aug 2012 #12
jade3000 Aug 2012 #11
47of74 Aug 2012 #13
jade3000 Aug 2012 #15

Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:35 PM

1. Great way to keep them poor, ignorant and vulnenerable.

Also a fine reason to kick the whole voucher idea to the curb and make sure the government funds schools. Ignorance is really expensive over the long run.

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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:42 PM

2. #2 is true

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:01 PM

8. I believe in you, Dragon.

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Response to surrealAmerican (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 09:53 PM

14. Well thank you

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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:50 PM

3. You don't really need to know any of this stuff

to hunt alligators in the swamps

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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:01 PM

4. The A-Beka books

are clearly the work of crazed loons.

That said, I will take issue with some of the criticism leveled at a few of the Bob Jone U texts. Technically, the bits about "slave masters" and the KKK are not wrong - the quotes are taken out of context, so it is really impossible to know where they are going with it.

I strongly suspect they're going no where good, but, bottom line, you would find the same information in any decent history textbook.

It's not the information; it's what you do with it. If slave owners treated slaves "well", it generally wouldn't have been because they cared about them as people - they did care about their property. The KKK did do the things that excerpt says they did and many communities did embrace them for the reason stipulated. That doesn't mean they were "A-OK" - just that they knew what to do to ingratiate themselves in a community.

What happened is pretty static (Vesuvius did erupt) but how it is presented and how the discussion is directed are not ("Vesuvius erupted because the gods were angry with the licentiousness of the people . . ." versus "Vesuvius was an active volcano that violently erupted after a period of relative calm that had lulled the population into believing nothing would happen").

The Bob Jones U texts probably take the basic information places it should never go - and teach teachers who are willing to take it there. I am not offering support for their 'take' on history - only pointing out that those excerpts are not, technically, wrong.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:13 PM

5. I'm pretty sure that by definition you cannot treat a slave well...

... so I'm nominating your post for the dumbest ever.

A stopped clock's right twice a day.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

6. An astonishingly uncritical response.

About what I would expect from someone who apparently is incapable of seeing dimension in anything. I seriously hope that you do nothing that requires critical thinking.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:20 PM

7. Perhaps you can enlighten this dimension-incapable thinker....

.... How does one treat a slave well?

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:14 PM

9. I heard that Thomas Jefferson...

...treated one of his slaves pretty well.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:19 PM

10. If being a slave and having to fuck your master is being treated "pretty well" then you're right.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:45 PM

12. Guess you'll have to take THAT up with Thomas Jefferson,

...and most of the other aristocrats who founded this country.
Slavery can come in many forms.
Are YOU free?

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Response to geefloyd46 (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:29 PM

11. Time to leave Louisiana

Any family with school age children should leave Louisiana now! I'll help with the transition if you come to Illinois, Indiana, or New York.

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Response to jade3000 (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:55 PM

13. I am sooooooooo glad my mom didn't stay there!

Mom lived there for a couple years in the 60s then moved back up here to Iowa. My uncle who moved down there and stayed down there is of the opinion that she would have stayed permanently if she had stayed a few years longer. Doubly glad she didn't now because I wouldn't exist if she had, at least not in my current form. I'd probably be some dumbass Jindal supporter then.

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Response to 47of74 (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:03 AM

15. Iowa seems like an interesting place to be

I've thought about moving there, at least for one presidential election year. It'd be interesting to see how the campaigning happens on the ground. There's so much power in the hands of one state. And I could go hang out with my cousin in Rock Island, IL.

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