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babylonsister

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Mon May 14, 2012, 07:34 AM May 2012

Paul Begala: Dick Lugar's Fate Shows When Right Is Wrong

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/13/paul-begala-dick-lugar-s-fate-shows-gop-puts-party-first.html

Paul Begala: Dick Lugar's Fate Shows When Right Is Wrong
May 14, 2012 1:00 AM EDT
The GOP puts party before country every time.


As the poet predicted, the center cannot hold. But it’s not because both the right and left are tearing at it equally. In an age in which journalism and punditry are terrorized by the demands of false equivalency, it is time to speak a simple truth: conservatives are to blame.

It was not liberals who ended the career of Richard Lugar. The longest-serving Republican in the Senate was unceremoniously dumped last week by the Tea Party fringe. He was not, as the saying goes, caught with a dead girl or a live boy. He was just too doggone moderate, too ready to compromise with the Democrats. Thanks for that, Senator Lugar. Oh, and you’re fired.

Today’s Republicans are different. They truly have put partisanship ahead of patriotism, as the political scientists Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann document in their book, Even Worse Than it Looks. “The GOP,” they write, “has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”

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How do we get our balance back? Don’t blame the politicians. Blame ourselves. As long as we continue to vote for politicians who see no legitimacy in common goals, who demonize every public enterprise—from public schools to Social Security—we should not be shocked that one political party sees compromise as evil. Without the oil of compromise, the gears of progress will continue to lock.
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Paul Begala: Dick Lugar's Fate Shows When Right Is Wrong (Original Post) babylonsister May 2012 OP
No voting system based on 'TRADE SECRET' code, like ours is now, Peace Patriot May 2012 #1
What's ironic about this is the fact that Lugar NEVER broke ranks with the 'baggers once zbdent May 2012 #2

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
1. No voting system based on 'TRADE SECRET' code, like ours is now,
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:29 AM
May 2012

and largely (80%) controlled by one, private, far rightwing-connected corporation--ES&S, which bought out Diebold--can be trusted to indicate "trends." We really have no idea if there is a "surge" of far rightwing radicalism in the Republican Party. Nor can we tell it from the "news" which is highly manipulated to serve corporate interests (loudmouth fascists given a "big trumpet" way out of proportion to their numbers?)--but the 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting is the far more dangerous item. We can overcome corporate propaganda. We can't overcome 'TRADE SECRET' code. (That's what it's FOR--so that we can't overcome it.)

We are reduced to guessing. My guess is that this far rightwing electoral successes are mostly phony. We are not seeing real--verifiable, transparent--voting results. My personal view is that the far rightwing is as tiny a minority as it has ever been. I wish that we could know for sure, but my study of the voting system tells me that we simply can't. We can't know. And basing political analysis on such results--without mentioning WHO is counting the votes and HOW they are counting them (out of public view, with, in half the states in the country, no verification even possible) invalidates the analysis.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
2. What's ironic about this is the fact that Lugar NEVER broke ranks with the 'baggers once
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:30 AM
May 2012

Obama was elected President ... almost everything was filibuster, filibuster, filibuster!

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