Rachel Maddow Makes History and Triumphs over the War On Women

Lower wages even for temporary workers with same skill set.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/freekvermeulen/2011/02/28/wage-differences-between-men-and-women-sexist-or-functional/

I love when she says that. It is so true. It isn't about flexibility. Flexibility, never hurts the employer. If it did even as much as a hangnail it wouldn't happen.

bad at math. I really liked how she went after him on that. What a douche that guy is.

was trying...to interrupt, deny, claim "funny math", and that the wage gap doesn't exist.

I thought to myself "Go ahead, bastard, try to 'talk down' to Rachel Maddow...She'll hand you your ass on a platter".

I love Rachel.

on his condescension. He went into this whole "I appreciate your passion" jag, and she slammed him on that but good. Such a smarmy thing to say, basically just a replay of the old "You're cute when you're angry" line of BS women used to get all the time.

The whole GOP has evidently been living in a cave for the last 50 years. It's great to have Rachel tell them exactly where they can stuff their faux sympathy and patronizing airs.

By giving her exposure on programs like Meet The Press. And her performance Sunday just had to enhance her standing.

Brilliant, progressive, and unwilling to take s-t from anyone!

Best thing to happen to MTP in a long, long time.

And put her lies on display everywhere they can get her a podium. Not to mention West's commie fight.

Déjà vu all over again.

Ms. Rehm heard from quite a few listeners about how far Schlafly falls below the standards for that show's guests.

my hero!!

anywhere on this planet is a huge advantage.

The power imbalance inherent in the social construct we've labeled 'patriarchy' is damaging to our entire species. How can we expect a 'dominant' gender to respect a 'submissive' gender, when 'power over' is glorified? We women are considered less than because we have a 'v' instead of a 'p'! How absurd!

Some great resources for any who wish to change this oppressive socio-cultural reality:

The Mermaid and the Minotaur: Sexual Arrangements and Human Malaise by Dorothy Dinnerstein.

Beyond Power: On Women, Men and Morals by Marilyn French.

The War Against Women by Marilyn French.

(BTW, I can play math as well as any 'p' on the planet.)

It describes the differential treatment of the genders,

while "disguising" the two genders as two groups of space aliens

One group is named one thing and the other something else.

Without giving away the fact that they are human males and females,

They are described as having slightly different body parts

which, when put together "fit" to ensure the success and furtherance of the species (e.g. one has a "tail")

and I describe how even though this is the case, the one group

is given MUCH better treatment than the other and how unfair

and oppressive this was to the other.

At the end, they take off their costumes and reveal themselves as male and female humans

I'm sure it's not "great", but my male teacher liked it ang gave me an A-.

Being a white male on this planet is a huge advantage and always has been!!!!

means you are BORN into it, and can never "rise" out it.

from whence come your question marks? Patriarchy elevates ALL males to 'superior' status, and renders our mythological sky being a FATHER, who sacrificed a SON (long considered the most valuable offspring...wonder why?). I could provide reams of data about patriarchy, but I encourage everyone to read the resources I posted hereinabove, or any of a number of other excellent treatises regarding the dangers and damages inherent in power imbalance.

from his explanation of the Mormon use of the "I love..." phrase.

And, k&r. Rachel is amazing and strong. I wish there were 1000 more like her.

That sanctimonious asshole can go suck it. BIG TIME.

Argument than personal attacks, condescension, etc.

He seemed a lot like ann romney in one respect, smirking, and SMUG AS ALL HELL!!!!!!

But I'm glad I watched Rachel put that asshole and his female counterpart in their place. I have been sick this weekend, and I turned on MTP only to hear Gregory say how Obama is going to use the Osama killing against Rmoney. Fuck you David. Obama has EVERY right to do that.

and in such a forum, excellent.

He goes immediately to 'system justification' for the existence of inequalities.

It's true he also tries to slide the topic from equal pay for equal work, to one of unequal work--men do 'engineering, etc'

Classic expression of a deep rooted cognitive motivator and he does it in the first seconds of his response.

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Aren't we talking about women getting paid a lower rate than men at similar jobs regardless of hours worked?

Why?
WHY?

Because of the "marriage factor" of course!










Whatever that is.



Like Rachel says it's not a "Math is Hard" question. It's simply does X=X or not?

How they are able to confuse this issue is beyond me.

SHE'S THE WOMAN!!!!! Dr. Maddow is light years ahead of the repug neanderthals. They must really think all people are sheeple. Her poise nuked him

The guy was a complete jerk which surprised Rachel since they "normally get along so well."

Castellanos says if women are paid so much less then employers would be flocking to hire women. That's simplifying the math a bit too much. But since the guy needs everything simplified, here goes.

Women are charged, on average, 30% more for their health insurance premiums.
Most employers pay a portion of those health insurance premiums as part of their benefit packages for employees.
Hiring more women will most likely increase the employer share of health insurance premiums paid for by employers.
Does this make women making 77 cents on the dollar to a make look more appealing as a job applicant? Most likely not.
Not only do women get paid less for the same job, many employers find them less appealing because as the chauvanist kept telling Rachel "Men work more" in other words are more productive. And women are perceived as costing more in benefits.

Another sick/sad thing is that women without children are subsidizing MEN's children. Women are penalized for being mothers. Women are penalized for being potential mothers. Childless women are paying higher insurance premiums to subsidize children that men had something to do with creating. Women: you're damned if you/damned if you don't -- hell, you're just damned. Don't be a woman.

Normal business as usual from the gop side, if you have nothing truthful or constructive to add to the discourse just interrupt constantly to muddy the discussion to a point that all that will really be remembered will be the rudeness involved and most will either give up and not listen anymore or forget the gist of the discussion and focus on that.

I am thinking words other than jerks, but prefer not to publish them.
Every time a Republican opens his or her mouth, I hate them more.

Republicans ALWAYS interrupt because they are terrified some who disagrees with them might have a point.

Thanks for the thread, Tx4obama.

Great argument by Maddow. She stood up well under that condescending badgering.