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Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:27 PM

No Savings Are Found From Welfare Drug Tests

Ushered in amid promises that it would save taxpayers money and deter drug users, a Florida law requiring drug tests for people who seek welfare benefits resulted in no direct savings, snared few drug users and had no effect on the number of applications, according to recently released state data.

“Many states are considering following Florida’s example, and the new data from the state shows they shouldn’t,” said Derek Newton, communications director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, which sued the state last year to stop the testing and recently obtained the documents. “Not only is it unconstitutional and an invasion of privacy, but it doesn’t save money, as was proposed.”

This week, Georgia instituted a nearly identical law, with supporters saying it would foster greater personal responsibility and save money. As in Florida, the law is expected to draw a legal challenge. The Southern Center for Human Rights, based in Atlanta, said it expected to file a lawsuit once the law takes effect in the next several months. A number of other states are considering similar bills.

The Florida civil liberties group sued the state last year, arguing that the law constituted an “unreasonable search” by the government, a violation of the Fourth Amendment. In issuing a temporary injunction in October, Judge Mary S. Scriven of Federal District Court scolded lawmakers and said the law “appears likely to be deemed a constitutional infringement.”

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html

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alp227 Apr 2012 OP
msongs Apr 2012 #1
nykym Apr 2012 #2
iscooterliberally Apr 2012 #3
catbyte Apr 2012 #4
wandy Apr 2012 #5
sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #6
WingDinger Apr 2012 #7

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:29 PM

1. so who pays for these tests? are they privatized to coporate greed hogs? nt

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Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:31 PM

2. Obviously the GOP

has found a new wrinkle for Pay to Play and method of rewarding contributors.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:32 PM

3. "...and had no effect on the number of applications.."

I think these laws are just a back door attack on welfare recipients. Typical Y.O.Y.O shit.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:55 PM

4. That's not the point. The point is humiliation

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Leo, Sophie, Taz & Nigel, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"We ride inside--HISS!”

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Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:22 PM

5. These drug tests support three over all ends....

1) Provide an additional source of profit for you're 'campaign' contributers.
2) Provide 'red meat' to you're base.
3) Reinforce the need of you're base to feel superior to at least someone.

What other end can it serve.

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Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:36 PM

6. "We had to stop allowing tax dollars for anybody to buy drugs with,” said State Representative

Jimmie T. Smith, a Republican who sponsored the bill last year.

Wonder how many state reps and senators across the land use. When can we drug-test them?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 03:06 PM

7. Cute, turn the desperate into criminals, or die. What about patients?

 

They want ideological wins, screw rationality. They dont care how much it costs. If it creates more victims, from starvation, or robbery, good, as they will be able to demonize drug use, as violent.

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