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Judi Lynn

(160,507 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:19 PM Jun 2016

Jane Goodall: Slain Zoo Gorilla Was ‘Putting an Arm Round the Child’

Jane Goodall: Slain Zoo Gorilla Was ‘Putting an Arm Round the Child’

Melissa Chan
May 31, 2016

Jane Goodall, one of the world’s most renowned primatologists, wrote an email on Tuesday to the director of the Cincinnati Zoo, saying she thought the slain gorilla may have been protecting the boy who fell into the animal’s exhibit.

The scientist and animal rights activist extended her sympathies to the zoo’s director, Thane Maynard, amid national backlash over the shooting death of a 17-year-old western lowland gorilla named Harambe.

“I tried to see exactly what was happening—it looked as though the gorilla was putting an arm round the child—like the female who rescued and returned the child from the Chicago exhibit,” she wrote, according to the correspondence the Jane Goodall Institute made public. Goodall may have been referring to the 1996 incident at the Brookfield Zoo in Illinois in which a female gorilla carried a boy to safety after he fell into her pit.

“Anyway, whatever, it is a devastating loss to the zoo, and to the gorillas,” Goodall wrote.

More:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jane-goodall-slain-zoo-gorilla-223216216.html?nhp=1

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hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
2. Me too, even though I don't fault the zoo for acting
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

For those who want to bemoan all this anguish about a dead gorilla and throw up straw dog arguments that we wanted the child to be at risk, I will say that I do NOT blame the zoo for acting... I can and DO express and truly feel devastation for all the human tragedies at the very same time I can feel horrendous about the loss of this nearly irreplaceable animal and others like him. It really is NOT one or the other.

Judi Lynn

(160,507 posts)
9. She's been with them in their own habitat for decades. She most surely knows whereof she speaks. n/t
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:41 PM
Jun 2016

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
10. Snark away, but she said something very different than what you say she said.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

IOW, you're lying. And disrespecting Jane Goodall.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. the thread title is a cut & paste of the article title
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:26 AM
Jun 2016

IOW, the OP didn't lie or disrespect anyone; you did by attributing the quote to the OPer.



felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
5. Why not a dart gun?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jun 2016

No one can tell me we don't have the technology to stun an animal. There is too much lethal force with animals and with humans, it is unnecessary to kill.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
11. As the zoo said, it would have agitated the gorilla, and taken too long to knock him out.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jun 2016

It is not like in the movies. A tranquilizer dart takes some minutes to kick in, during which time the gorilla is very upset he has been struck by a dart, thrashes about and may hurt or kill the child.

No Vested Interest

(5,165 posts)
6. I'm a little sick of those, including "experts" who have worked with gorillas,
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

delivering their opinion on the brief video they saw, which did not include the period following the time in the moat.

Have the videos shown amounted to more than one minute of the total 10-minute experience?

Are these experts aware or taking into account that Harambe took the child up a ladder to a grassy and concrete area out of sight of visitors' cameras and became more aggressive, dragging and tossing the child during the minutes before the trained team ended the gorilla's life?

I don't know exactly how many minutes Harambe was in the moat with the child and how many minutes after he ascended the ladder into the habitat area, but the visitors had been cleared from the area into a building before the shot was fired, and that could not have been done in an instant.

Harambe's death is a tragedy. His sperm was collected for future breeding, as were other body specimens for research.

Archae

(46,311 posts)
14. Linus Pauling was an expert chemist. But he lost his credibilty.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

When he decided massive doses of vitamin C could cure just about anything.

Likewise, Jane Goodall lost her credibility when she decided to be a fan of Jeffrey Smith.

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