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struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:35 AM Feb 2016

The self-centred world of Julian Assange

Marianne Taylor / Sunday 7 February 2016

... Over the years there has been a horribly mysogynistic bent to much of the rhetoric of Mr Assange’s supporters. The Australian has admitted having sex with the woman who made the allegation, but claims it was consensual. And in Assangeland denial is obviously enough. Why should the great man have to explain himself to anyone else? The allegation must be politically motivated, right? Why should he have to even speak to the authorities about this pesky rape stuff when he’s got much more important stuff to worry about?

We, of course, should be asking another question altogether: what right has the UN to deny a woman who claims to be the victim of a serious sex crime the chance of justice? Does the UN really view Mr Assange’s right to walk the streets as more important than a woman’s right to see her accusation of rape legally investigated? Shockingly, if Friday’s report is to be believed, the answer is yes on both counts, though the UK Government does not agree.

Mr Assange could walk quietly out of the embassy any day of the week. In doing so, he would, of course, have to face the serious sexual accusations against him. But doing so would give him the opportunity not only to clear his name, but also see the children he claims to be denied access to. After all, Sweden is known to have a fair and transparent legal system. So what is he afraid of? He has claimed all along that Sweden will extradite him to the US, but there is not a shred of evidence to support this.

Make no mistake, Mr Assange is holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy because he chooses to be. Because it gives him the oxygen of publicity and makes him feel important. Because it prevents him having to face up to an allegation that could potentially undo anything positive his WikiLeaks work has achieved. His pompous bearing on Friday in front of the cameras made that abundantly clear ...


http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14259969.Marianne_Taylor__The_self_centred_world_of_Julian_Assange/

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BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
1. What a load of bullshit.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:52 AM
Feb 2016

Assange, if he was any other person, would never have been subjected to multi year around the clock police surveillance in England. The Swedes didn't make a big deal about the allegations against him until the US and much of Europe was embarrassed by the classified information he disclosed.

This smells of a US coordinated effort to get Assange. In particular to get him extradited to the US. The author naively, or dishonestly, claims there is no evidence to support this. Of course there is no evidence, the US doesn't announce its covert plans. There was no evidence of water-boarding until there was.

I don't know if Assange is guilty of anything or not. I do know his leaks were a very good thing. He certainly isn't the villain this right wing hit piece makes him out to be.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
3. It's tragic: he wore an ankle bracelet as a condition of his release on bail to Ellingham Hall
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:37 PM
Feb 2016





Then he removed it and jumped bail

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
2. Sweden can easily take the wind from his sails
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

with one simple action: Provide a binding commitment that they will not extradite him to the US.

Deals are made everyday to move an investigation or prosecution along. This would be no different.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
4. rofl!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:42 PM
Feb 2016

I'm staying put in embassy: Assange
JUNE 19, 2013 1:27PM

JULIAN Assange won't leave the Ecuadorean embassy in London even if Sweden drops its investigation into allegations he sexually assaulted two women.

The WikiLeaks founder made the surprise announcement during an anniversary interview to mark one year since he sought refugee inside the diplomatic mission ...

Assange said he should be able to travel to the airport in a diplomatic car "thus avoiding the possibility of arrest on the back of a sealed extradition request" ...


http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/im-staying-put-in-embassy-assange/story-e6frfkui-1226666051641#ixzz2WguUVE25

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
5. Sweden agreed to question him at the Ecuadorian embassy in London two months ago . . .
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

. . . and Ecuador has agreed to cooperate to allow that to occur. That offer has been on the table and available to them since at least last summer. And still they haven't done so, two months after they sealed the deal with Ecuador. Seems to me that if they had anything legitimate, they would have moved on it by now.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-14/sweden-reaches-preliminary-deal-to-question-assange/7025526

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
6. Ecuador declined Sweden's requests in March and June of 2015 and in January 2016
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016
... The request for judicial assistance from the Swedish prosecution was received in Stockholm, via Ministry of Justice, at the Embassy of Ecuador, on June 12, 2015 ... Ecuador is preparing the reply accordingly ...
http://suecia.embajada.gob.ec/press-release-regarding-judicial-cooperation-between-ecuador-and-sweden/

Ecuador weighs Swedish request to question Assange
Posted on 18 June 2015 - 11:44am
Last updated on 18 June 2015 - 12:29pm
... Ecuador said Wednesday it is considering Swedish prosecutors' request to question WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange ... Swedish prosecutors said Monday they had submitted a request to British and Ecuadoran authorities to question Assange in June and July at the embassy ...
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1463723

Sweden to meet Ecuador officials Monday over Assange
Posted 29 Aug 2015 02:59
... STOCKHOLM: Swedish officials will meet their Ecuadorian counterparts on Monday (Aug 31) to find a way for Swedish prosecutors to question WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange over a rape allegation ... Swedish prosecutors offered in March to question Assange in London ... But Quito refused to allow such a meeting, demanding that Stockholm first sign a bilateral agreement ...
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/sweden-to-meet-ecuador/2084050.html

Swedish prosecutors to make new request to question Julian Assange
Reuters in Stockholm
Thursday 17 December 2015 10.28 EST
... Swedish prosecutors will shortly submit a new request to question WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorean embassy in London over rape allegations, the Prosecution Authority has said. On Sunday, the Quito government said Ecuador and Sweden had signed a pact after half a year of negotiations that would allow Assange to be questioned at the embassy, where he has been holed up for more than three years ...
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/dec/17/swedish-prosecutors-new-request-question-julian-assange-rape-allegations

Sweden, Ecuador at odds over Assange interrogation
Posted 22 Jan 2016 05:39
STOCKHOLM: Sweden's prosecution authority said on Thursday (Jan 21) Ecuador had refused its request to let a Swedish prosecutor question WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange over a rape allegation, because Quito wanted an Ecuadoran prosecutor to do the questioning. Ecuador rejected "on formal grounds" the Swedish prosecutor's request to interrogate Assange in the Ecuadoran embassy in London, the Swedish authority said in a statement ...
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/sweden-ecuador-at-odds/2446784.html

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
10. "... Last month, Ecuador’s prosecutor-general rejected a previous request from the Swedish
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

prosecutor to question Assange in London. That office, in a letter to Swedish authorities, said it will interview Assange and asked for a list of questions the Swedish prosecutor wants the Ecuadorian prosecutor to ask the Wikileaks founder ..."
The Continuing Saga of Julian Assange
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/02/sweden-assange/461931/

Sure, you can interview him! Oh, but wait! you can't be the one that does the interview!

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
8. Do you know anything about this? There were two women, and they met the day after and
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:51 PM
Feb 2016

checked stories and went to the police together.

One of the women had written a how to frame men page on internet - it was in the news before he even got to Great Britain.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
9. Fair trials are not generally within the mandate of the Working Group on Arbitrary Detention
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:17 PM
Feb 2016

which exists to investigate alleged cases of detention without access to ordinary court procedures

But neither the Swedish nor the UK courts have a reputation for political prosecutions; and if the matter is as clearcut as you seem to believe, he's certain to be found innocent

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