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Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:20 AM

TPM: Are Republicans About To Commit Medicare Suicide?

Brian Beutler

February 7, 2012, 5:40 AM

It’s shaping up to be spring 2011 redux. Just under a year ago, Republicans — euphoric after a midterm election landslide, and overzealous in their interpretation of their mandate — passed a budget that called for phasing out Medicare over the coming years and replacing it with a subsidized private insurance system for newly eligible seniors.

The backlash was ugly. But Republicans seem to have forgotten how poisonous that vote really was, and remains…because they’re poised to do it again. This time they’re signaling they’ll move ahead, with a modified plan — one that, though less radical, would still fundamentally remake and roll back one of the country’s most popular and enduring safety net programs.

“We’re not backing off any of our ideas, any of our solutions,” GOP budget chairman Paul Ryan said last week in an interview with Fox.

Why on earth would Republicans put the whole party back on the line? Particularly after a year of serial brinkmanship and overreach that has dragged their popularity down to record lows?

Read the entire piece at TPM.com

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City Lights Feb 2012 OP
rfranklin Feb 2012 #1
City Lights Feb 2012 #2
rurallib Feb 2012 #3
southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #4
madrchsod Feb 2012 #5
Vapor Trails Feb 2012 #6
Skink Feb 2012 #7
Fearless Feb 2012 #18
Thav Feb 2012 #8
Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #16
CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #9
a2liberal Feb 2012 #10
demgrrrll Feb 2012 #11
Johnny2X2X Feb 2012 #12
Lugnut Feb 2012 #13
Alcibiades Feb 2012 #14
eyewall Feb 2012 #23
TxVietVet Feb 2012 #15
Fearless Feb 2012 #17
Historic NY Feb 2012 #19
Beartracks Feb 2012 #22
eyewall Feb 2012 #24
City Lights Feb 2012 #25
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #20
sellitman Feb 2012 #21

Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:22 AM

1. I support the Republicans fully...

 

as they slit their own throats.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:23 AM

2. I do, too.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:28 AM

3. when your enemy is drowning, throw them an anchor.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:35 AM

4. Quick someone help me pick up the anchor and give it to Ryan. On the other hand I sure hope the

 

democrats don't cave especially Obama. That am afraid of.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:44 AM

5. go for and see what happens!

democratic guys and gals like me on medicare and social security would love to have that talking point this year. it does`t matter if one is a dem or a rep- you don`t fuck with our medicare or security!

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:21 AM

6. That is a rerun I'd like to see n/t

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:40 AM

7. President Romney can't wait.

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Response to Skink (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:03 PM

18. Wait wait, I thought Newt said he was president... And Herman Cain in his book too...

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:27 PM

8. The definition of insanity is

to do the same thing again, but expect different results.

(Didn't they use that line on Obama?)

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Response to Thav (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:34 PM

16. ....is voting Republican

unless you make over $250,000.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:48 PM

9. Gluttons for punishment.

 

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:44 PM

10. K&R (n/t)

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 04:20 PM

11. I don't understand what is going on they all have that deer in the headlights look.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 04:35 PM

12. Huge blunder

I think there was a massive miscalculation on the part of the whole GOP. It's pretty simple, they put all their eggs in one basket, the economy. Since the economy is coming around nicely they don't have anything to talk about.

Now is not the time to re-brand or brainstorm. Their plan is totally shot and you will see a totally desperate Republican party in the coming months before they just try to do damage control.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 05:41 PM

13. I sure hope so.

I love the smell of over-reach in the morning.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:38 PM

14. The real base of the GOP

is:

1. rich

2. white

3. old

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/11/03/forget-the-tea-party-republicans-won-because-of-older-voters.html

Folks blather a lot about the 2010 elections, but it was the high water mark for a group I call the "George Wallace voters," older conservatives. Like Wallace, they hate big government, and yet, much like other older voters, they love Medicare and Social Security.

Most of these folks have not voted Democratic since Reagan. To the extent that this crowd is demobilized by this, the stronger our winning coalition will be. 2010 was the last hurrah of the old white conservative, who are all going the way of Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, despite all the hated gubberment money that is being spent on their health care.

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Response to Alcibiades (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:25 AM

23. Republicans are also notoriously unconcerned about anybody but themselves.

The trick for the GOP is to say "except for those currently on or about to begin receiving" and then most of their base is covered.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:18 PM

15. I'll help them along. DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

conservanazis are hateful. I just love it when they do something as stupid as this. I'll help them pull the trigger.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:02 PM

17. This must be what watching a supernova is like...

So blinding and so explosive and unrestrained, and yet you're so unable to peel your eyes away from the death of a multi-billion year old object.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:35 PM

19. I loved the poster.........

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:48 AM

22. "This time... it's personal."



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Response to Historic NY (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:27 AM

24. Great poster!

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:13 AM

25. Me too!

Fantastic!

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:52 PM

20. So, if they ARE going to kil Medicare in favor of privatization

I guess I should not sign up for it then.
Once you sign up, you cannot un-sign, and I will be damned if I will have my monthly premium being hijacked into some for profit private care plan.
Plus they are free to jack up the monthly premium all they want if they get their way.

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Response to City Lights (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:56 PM

21. What was that definition of insanity?

Surly the GOP is a poster child of that definition.

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