Pic Of The Moment: Iran-Contrarian: Rand Paul Announces!
Rand Paul vows to follow Reagan's poor example on Iran
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marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)doesn't mean the rest of us have forgotten.
Jim__
(14,045 posts)czarjak
(11,194 posts)Now it makes sense.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Taking our country BACK finally makes sense to me.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)You nailed it!!!
No need to turn on the Bat Signal now.
groundloop
(11,488 posts)Let's see, start off by committing treason by making a deal with an enemy nation holding American hostages in order to undermine the election of a sitting President (resulting in American hostages being held longer).
Illegally selling weapons to an enemy nation.
Lie to Congress about selling weapons to an enemy nation.
Diverting funds from illegal sale of weapons to an enemy nation to a terrorist group.
Lie to Congress about diversion of funds.
Yeah Rand, way to go. I'm sure this is a great example of how you'll lead.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)2naSalit
(86,061 posts)Martin Eden
(12,803 posts)... and say exactly what he would do as president:
making a deal with an enemy nation holding American hostages in order to undermine the election of a sitting President (resulting in American hostages being held longer).
Illegally selling weapons to an enemy nation.
Lie to Congress about selling weapons to an enemy nation.
Diverting funds from illegal sale of weapons to an enemy nation to a terrorist group.
Lie to Congress about diversion of funds.
tclambert
(11,080 posts)The Contras may have sounded like terrorists, acted like terrorists, and sold cocaine to Americans (with help from the CIA) like terrorists, but Oliver North said they were actually freedom fighters. While Oliver North was convicted of various crimes, he was later completely exonerated of those crimes when his convictions were overruled on the technicality that his prosecution may have possibly, though it was never proven, benefitted from his testimony to Congress under the protection of immunity, during which testimony he confessed to these exact crimes and several others. And while he was linked to the Contras' cocaine dealings by them using the supply network he set up with his good friend, Manuel Noriega (whom we later fought a war to arrest for his drug smuggling), and he made it easy for anyone associated with his supply system to escape close scrutiny by Customs or the DEA, he was never convicted of participating in the drug smuggling, though after an investigation, the nation of Costa Rica banned North from ever entering that country.
So, you see, our justice system has established Oliver North is completely innocent, and you can therefore have no reason to doubt his judgment that the Contras were noble freedom fighters, who just coincidentally looked, acted, and quacked like terrorists.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)hopefully the media will take this example to inform people about the reality of Reagan.
If the media fails, which they often do, then hopefully some Democratic ads will do it.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)And the bigger the lie, the more virtuous they think they are!!
onecent
(6,096 posts)I remember when Reagan died and they were having all this
POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE an a friend of mine called and said,
isn't this WONDERFUL???? EVERYTHING they are doing ..it is
soooo american and he was the greatest president.blabbity blabbity blah
and I said, "What are you smokin???" I'm trying to find something on TV that's
NOT about all this crap. ha it was hilarious. She had a hard time coming down off that one..
Midnight Writer
(21,548 posts)Israel sold thousands of advanced missiles to Iran at Reagan's behest.
And those explosives used against our troops by Iranian insurgents? Yep, we sold'em.
And Saddam's nerve gas that he used against his own people? Yep, that was us.
And Iran's current nuclear technology that is going to set the world on fire? Yep, sold to them by a Halliburton subsidiary. (Created as an off-shore entity to avoid the US sanctions).
And now the opposition to Obama's peaceful disarmament deal with Iran? The same neocons who created this mess in the first place.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)How do I remember all this? BECAUSE IT WAS ON BROADCAST TELEVISION EVERY GODDAM DAY FOR A YEAR OR MORE.
I can't imagine how anyone over the age of 40 wouldn't remember all this. You'd truly have to be willfully ignorant.
TRoN33
(769 posts)groundloop
(11,488 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Maybe Crazy Paul thinks nothing will stick to him either.
I can't believe that these crazy fucks think they can be President.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)A bonus: hoping to have some influence on the eventual "moderate" (by Republican standards) candidate.
malthaussen
(17,066 posts)father founding
(619 posts)Is it Ayn or Ron or .... I just don't know, darn.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)hibbing
(10,076 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,192 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)really a clown posing as a politician.
tclambert
(11,080 posts)Initech
(99,915 posts)And yes I'm well aware that this headline could describe any number of sexual positions.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Nicaragua???????
turbinetree
(24,632 posts)is he going to do what Reagan did during the Iran hostage situation---how convenient.
Reagan and his illustrious right wing team, as a civilian's mind you was / were negotiating with the Iranians in secret, a foreign government, prior to him swearing his allegiance to the Constitution---that is being called a traitor and he (Reagan) still his a traitor.
Or is he going to also follow in the steps of Richard Nixon and what his band of merry men did, the same thing during the Vietnam conflict---negotiating with a foreign government and making promises out the kazoo---he also was a traitor.
And now old chuckles, Rand Paul, wants to follow in Reagans foot steps ------great.
Ah yes ---brings back fond memories of a current Fix Noise guy, Ollie North, dressed in his United States Marine uniform (Colonel no less) and lying through his teeth, but do not fear, old Ollie has a radio program and he gets on Fix Noise once and awhile and the public gets to listen to his sage wisdom of hypocrisy on how liberals are liberals (bad unpatriotic people)
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)most libertarians are non-interventionist anti-war types who don't want to spend too much tax money on defense.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)This would end a Democrats campaign. It is epic stupidity. This idiot may be worse than Palin.
So has he even tried to walk this stupidity back?
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)Doesn't he have any handlers like most Republicans who help him confine his stupid public statements to the 'just generally stupid, but not mind-blowingly stupid' sphere?
Wow.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)During the Reagan administration, who was Iran fighting? Who was Iraq fighting? The answer is, each other. They really didn't have too much time to screw with us, as they were preoccupied with each other.
Paul's basic point is: Let the Sunni parts of the Islamic world fight with the Shiite part of that world. Works for me.
Cha
(295,926 posts)kochroach, EarlG.
captainarizona
(363 posts)All of us anti-vietnam war people don't forget to celebrate the american peoples victory over the war mongers! 45 anniversary of kent state may 4th 1970. April 30th coming soon!
Zambero
(8,954 posts)This is one invocation of Reagan that any non-brain-dead Republican would want to avoid. But Rand Paul managed to pull it off.
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has no business running for president.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Right, I'm ALWAYS wont to gravitate to presidential candidates that form their foreign policy platforms after an administration that more or less got away with high treason.
Tensions mounted when an anti-Sandinista faction called the Contras began to mobilize and conduct coordinated attacks on the infrastructure of the country in an attempt to destabilize the FSLN government. The Contras for the most part consisted of right-wing extremists, former land elites and ex-members of the feared and vicious Guardia Nacional, which was responsible for the most egregious human rights violations under the previous Somoza regime.[3] While many observers called the Contras "death squads," the Reagan administration called them "freedom fighters" (to be fair there were war crimes committed by both sides, although the Sandinista's human rights record was immensely better than the military regimes in El Salvador and Guatemala, also being supported by Ronnie).
Since the Reagan administration opposed communism, and since the Sandinistas were commie sympathizers, the Reagan administration thought it would be a good idea to give US aid to the Contras, including money and weapons. However, Congress was uninterested in getting the United States involved in another country's civil war (again) and explicitly forbade any such actions. But Reagan really wanted to do it so they had to find a way around the law.
IHateTheGOP
(1,059 posts)How much longer are we going to allow ourselves this continued onslaught of idiocy from the right wing? This republican party is the most dangerous threat our nation has ever faced. Why isn't there a national effort put forth to get EVERYONE to vote? Look at what Oregon just did. You are automatically registered to vote in that state, and are then sent a ballot right to your doorstep. I say further this effort by giving everyone who bothers to send in that ballot a cash reward of $20. If we could get this in every state, Republicans would never win another election and we could rid ourselves of their lunacy. This would save the country more than enough money to pay the voting reward.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)The Right Wing religious quackery has taught that 25%/one fourth of the World, will be destroyed by fire, before the return of Christ. IMO, that is giving the Nutbag Extremist in Congress, permission to bring on small nuclear warfare.
President Obama, being a very intelligent man, harassed over religion also, is telling Americans that everyone should vote. The GOP and Israeli leader seem to be setting the stage for a bombing war. Perhaps Obama will sign an Executive Order getting everyone registered to vote.
Its is everyone's responsibility to vote for or against Candidates who refuse to accept nuclear particles that would circulate around the World by winds if small nuclear bombs are exploded. It is my belief that there are millions of RW idiots out there, that would believe that a nuclear winter would keep Global Warming from occurring. Keep in mind that nuclear particles have been used in Iraq already but not spread by bombs. Particles have come from Japan's meltdown also. I believe that the mentality for nuclear warfare is in place, just as Einstein warned. Little to no knowledge on the nuclear science and the science of Global Warming is easy plunder for the corrupt GOP. No oil coming out of the Near and Middle East means it would be EXPORTED from the West.
YankeesForever
(1 post)With a guy like Demetri Kesari giving him advise what do you expect!!