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Also, Voltaire never said, Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #1
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They can't prove he had his hands up. Can't prove he didn't. That was the problem. bravenak Mar 2015 #2
with all the things Ferguson PD did, and has admitted to, tishaLA Mar 2015 #3
I see Ms. Ashley has been all over DU with these stories... Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #4

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. Also, Voltaire never said,
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:35 PM
Mar 2015

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” In fact, the phrase was coined by Evelyn Beatrice Hall, a Voltaire biographer, to summarize his stance.

The phrase so concisely encapsulates the principle of free speech that it has a life of its own in human consciousness, regardless of who actually said it.

I think the same thing is true of "Hands Up--Don't Shoot." The phrase speaks so eloquently for itself that, on one level at least, it really doesn't matter where it originated. Did Caesar really say, "Et tu, Brute?" Does it matter?

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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. They can't prove he had his hands up. Can't prove he didn't. That was the problem.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:42 PM
Mar 2015

With such a racist police department, anything is believed. That reflects poorly on the Police department and system as a whole, not on the people who protested.
They had also been treated like shit by the police often being assaulted and bitten by dogs for no reason other than the color of their skin.
I find it strange that some people ignore the racism and violations while focusing on protestors that stood against the tyrannical police and system.
Basically it's saying the racism and unjust system is not the problem, the problem is the protestors believing that the racist unjust department would shoot a kid with his hands up.
Stupid fucking people believe the 'hands up don't shoot' is the problem instead of American Exceptional Racism.
Only a racist loser would believe that.
A seriously damaged soul with no honesty.
A putrid pile of nothingness.
A fulltime hater and liar.
A white supremecist.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
3. with all the things Ferguson PD did, and has admitted to,
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 03:48 PM
Mar 2015

I am not going to be upset that a metaphorical truth--that police targeted African Americans living in or traveling thought Ferguson MO --may not have been literally true. So rather than concentrating on the possibility that the literal truth was stretched, we would do well to encourage police and protesters in Ferguson and throughout the country to stick to their metaphors, providing they result in critiques of institutionalized racism and changes to police/court practices nationwide

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. I see Ms. Ashley has been all over DU with these stories...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:17 PM
Mar 2015
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