Rudy Giuliani calls on Bill de Blasio to apologize to cops

[inanna]

Source: CBS News

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said current mayor Bill de Blasio owes New York City police an apology for creating "an impression with police that he was on the side of the protesters."

"Mayor de Blasio, please say you're sorry to them for having created a false impression of them," Giuliani said on "Face the Nation" Sunday. "You did create a false impression of them. Say you're sorry. Say you didn't realize. Say you didn't realize you have...a non-white police department, in terms of majority."

<snip>

On "Fox News Sunday" last week, Giuliani faulted the president for showing too much sympathy toward people protesting the deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner at the hands of police officers.

"We've had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police," he said.

The Washington Post's fact checker gave his statement four Pinocchios, their marker of a "whopper" of a false claim.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-calls-on-bill-de-de-blasio-to-apologize-to-cops/

[Just for Fun]

1. BdB to Gu911an911

Fuck off and go blow goats.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

58. ikr! cRudy needs to apologize for giving assholes a bad name.

[olegramps]

2. This from a man who kick his wife and kids out of the house and moved in his bimbo.

[LiberalElite]

19. actually Donna kicked him out of

Gracie Mansion and he had to live with a big GOP donor and his boyfriend.

[blackcrow]

22. Didn't he announce he was getting a divorce at a newscast or something before he told Donna?

[deurbano]

25. Yes.

From the Wikipedia entry for Donna Hanover:

<<On the evening after announcing his cancer diagnosis, reporters observed Rudy Giuliani having "a romantic dinner" with Judith Nathan, the woman who would be identified as his lover.[15] Just one more week later, Giuliani announced that he and Hanover were officially separated at a press conference on May 10. Giuliani had neglected to tell Hanover either of his decision or of the press conference and moments later, with cameras taping her reaction, reporters at her residence apparently shocked her with this info and she was visibly distraught by the unexpected news.>>

[olegramps]

66. Yes, you are correct, but when she didn't leave he had her evicted.

He was such a wonderful father that his two children wouldn't have any thing to do with him. His daughter even supported Obama in the election. He announced that he was leaving his wife on TV before even informing her. Plus he had other affairs through their marriage according to the gossip columns.

[Thinkingabout]

30. He moved his bimbo "nurse" in before he started the divorce, dont follow his lead.

[hrmjustin]

3. Did Rudy apologize for his bullshit?

Did he apologize to Dinkins for helping to start a riot at city hall?

Did he apologize for bringing in a tank to evict people from their homes?

Did he apologize for destroying green space in this city?

Did he apologize to his ex-wife for so publicly cheating on her and announcing he was divorcing her on TV without informing her?

Did he apologize for putting the city bunker in tower 7?

Did he apologize for Bernard Kerik?

Did he apologize for those the police murdered and brutalized during "Giuliani time"?

The answer is NO!

Rudy please shut up!!!

[inanna]

5. I swear that anymore

I feel like I am living in the friggin' Twilight Zone.

[Plucketeer]

7. Hopefully....

Rude Rudy's in the twilight of his years.

[MADem]

59. He foisted that cretin Kerik on the nation--that ass almost became DHS!

He represented our nation in Iraq!

EIGHT felony tax and false statement charges!

A man of low character--just like his mentor Rudy....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Kerik

[Turbineguy]

4. He is right about one thing:

The first one to come across to communicate is the adult.

Oh, I forgot, de Blasio already did that.

[99th_Monkey]

6. It's the cops who should be doing the apologizing

both to the mayor and to the slain police officers families.

The police need to apologize for their rude back-turning stunt.

[Sherman A1]

26. Precisely

They should be apologizing to the families for the disrespect of turning the grief ridden event of their loved one's funerals into protests.

Every one of those who childishly turned their back to protest the Mayor's comments, showed nothing but disrespect for the families of the officers.

In my opinion these officers are a disgrace to their uniforms.

[Thinkingabout]

31. I agree, Rudy is wanting Bill de Blasio to apologize to the terrible rude cops at a funeral of their

Fallen police officer acting like Westboro Baptist disrupting a funeral service, thing away the reverence which be given to the grieving family. Rudy will not get any respect from me. If the police would do their protesting as the other protesters then fine but do not show up and annoy families who are grieving.

[Euphoria]

29. k&r. n/t

[DRoseDARs]

8. Sure, right after Rudy apologizes for getting all those people killed on 9/11.

Emergency command center at the bottom of a burning skyscraper?

[olddad56]

47. I think he was involved in 911 to a even deeper level than people realize.

[PatSeg]

9. Rudy Who???

Another washed up republican trying too hard to sound relevant. No one really cares what you think Rudy, just go away.

[PADemD]

10. What, he didn't say a noun, a verb, and 9/11?

[bvf]

20. That's exactly what I thought.

The minute he started milking 9/11 he was dead to me.

Happy to see him have to resort to shilling on TV.

[Calista241]

11. Apparently, they turned their backs at the funeral because de Blasio

showed up late for the wake of Officer Ramos.

The Governor, several Representatives, and several former mayors showed up earlier and spent time with the family, but de Blasio showed up 15 minutes before the wake ended at 9:00 pm. In total, the wake lasted over 8 hours.

This was also the first day since de Blasio became mayor that he did not release his public schedule.

[BronxBoy]

39. Wow.....

You actually believe that???

[Calista241]

40. i just reported the news!

[BronxBoy]

41. I didn't ask you what was reported....

I asked you if you believed it.

[Calista241]

46. for people looking for a reason to get worked up, yeah, i can see them taking a perceived slight and

running with it. Do i think it's an actual legit reason to get worked up? Nope. Do i think it's worth the publicity they're going through? nope.

[LovingA2andMI]

49. In Total.....the WAKE lasted 8 Hours?

Wait a minute, the service was done by 11:30 am ET. So, what time did the service start, 4:30 am ET in the morning. TOTAL FAIL....

And de Blasio is the MAYOR of NEW YORK....all of NYC. With such the Mayor has duties nearly every day, all day. He showed up on time for the service and to give a condolence speech at the service. He had spent time with Ramos family on the day of the incident and the DAY AFTER. So your point is?

Oh, you have no point.

Meanwhile, the disrespectful NYPD Officers under the "authority" is race baiter Pat Lynch, thought it was appropriate to pull a Westboro Baptist Church move at a service for a fellow fallen officer. You want to know who is DISGUSTING? They are DISGUSTING. End....of....Story!

[Calista241]

50. That was the funeral. The wake is where the body is laid in a casket and people come to pay

their respects. This takes place at the funeral home, typically the day before a body is interred.

[LovingA2andMI]

52. BAA HAA HAA.....

The Funeral is where the Disgusting Officers turned their backs. A Funeral is what took place on SATURDAY. As for a wake, it is not REQUIRED that anyone "show up" at a certain time, as long as they arrive before the closing hours of the body being displayed.

So, again....your point is? Oh, like the last time, you have NO POINT.

[Calista241]

53. You asked for a reason the officers did what they did.

I gave an answer that I found on the Internet. It sounded plausible, and was mentioned multiple places.

You can sneer at me all you want, but I'm not involved, all I was doing was trying to answer someone's question.

[LovingA2andMI]

54. No I responded too....

The Disgusting Act of some NYPD Officers Protesting at a Funeral no less, of a fellow fallen solider. The action is inexcusable and their Commander Bill Bratton, believes the same...

"I certainly don't support that action," Bratton said on Face the Nation. "That funeral was held to honor Officer Ramos. And to bring politics, to bring issues into that event, I think, was very inappropriate."

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/police_commissioner_turning_ba.html

Hopefully, he will charge EACH OF THESE OFFICERS with Insubordination. We will see.

[Calista241]

55. Well, to be guilty of insubordination

Someone must:

1. Fail or refuse to obey a lawful order given by a superior

Or

2. Use any abusive or disrespectful language or action towards a supervisor.

Does turning your back constitute either of those things? If Mayor de Blasio determines that it does, what is the punishment and does he have the political power and / or ability to enforce it.

I don't see how the department can issue 25,000 reprimands and have the reprimand actually mean anything. And the union would go apeshit berserk if they had some other more punative measure in mind. He can't just fire everyone like people here want.

[LovingA2andMI]

56. Maybe because....

Only 250 to 300 Corrective Actions Memorandums with stated charges need to be written, not 25,000. Where did you pull that figure from? What's your source?

Oh, our source is here:

"As de Blasio spoke, hundreds of officers outside the church turned their backs in a sign of disrespect. Some have said de Blasio contributed to a climate of mistrust toward law enforcement amid anti-police protests."

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/27/police-officer-ramos-funeral-new-york/20934691/

HUNDREDS not THOUSANDS. Just for the complete correction because we would not want to spread false, made up from the air information on DU right Calista241 of a small number of actual posts.

Meanwhile, their Commanding Officer (i.e. BRATTON) who has already stated pretty publicly on FACE THE NATION the action by HUNDREDS not 25K Officers was his words VERY INAPPROPRIATE has all the authority necessary to charge the 250-300 officers with insubordination if he so choose.

WE....WILL...SEE.

[Calista241]

57. My bad, I just saw the video and it looked like nearly all of them.

[blackcrow]

64. rolls eyes

"I gave an answer that I found on the Internet. It sounded plausible, and was mentioned multiple places. "

[Fred Sanders]

12. From fucking Faux News, spread by CBS News, soon by the other mass media...it is how Faux

poisons the debate, all aided and abetted and as predictable as a quasar.

Fucking media all in on a race war, it is no longer debatable.

And fucker is a fucking coward for not facing the truth of his 4 Pinnochio Washington Post lies about Obama.

"Giuliani did not respond to the Post's queries, but said on "Face the Nation" that the fact check was "substantially inaccurate" and that they missed a "big point" in the president's appearances with Sharpton."

What fucking big point, fucker, powerful black man meets with another powerful black man is fucking scary to you fucking flaming racists, right?

Three words for the hypocritical fascist fuckers...Bundy Ranch murders.

[George II]

13. He is a TOTAL flaming moron! When is HE and HIS "president" going to apologize to AMERICA????

When is he just going to fucking GO AWAY??

[muntrv]

14. He'll apologize when Panataleo apologizes and admits he murdered Eric Garner.

[muntrv]

15. Rudy, first you call on Cliven Bundy and the teabaggers to apologize for the murder

of 2 Las Vegas cops at the hands of Jared Miller.

[BeanMusical]

16. On what planet does this turd live?

What a damn jerk.

[bluestateguy]

17. Apologies are signs of weakness

Never apologize (even if you really are wrong).

Your critics will NEVER be appeased; they'll see the exploitable weakness and just keep on beating up on you.

And it's never really about apologizing anyway. It's about making your adversary do a Walk of Shame, so you can continue beating up on him.

[TeamPooka]

18. After Rudy apologizes to the NYPD for making them cover up his adultery.

[Historic NY]

21. Did Rudy apologize to the cops who he used to carry on his adulterous affair?

[heaven05]

23. this idiot is full of himself

he's just trying to stay relevant and doing a terrible job. Fuck off Gewls

[kacekwl]

24. Mr. Giuliani , please....

apologize to the rest of us for making us all dumber having to listen to you over and over.

[RKP5637]

27. Asshole! The mouth that always speaks. n/t

[arcane1]

28. I'll give him this: he can pimp a dead body like few others can.

[Cha]

32. No, rudy rudy rudy.. it's you who had better apologize for lying your a$$ off and getting called out

by the WaPo.






http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6007888

Mahalo inanna~

[DinahMoeHum]

33. Up Yours, Fruity Rudy.

[randys1]

34. Rudy is one of the intelligent repubs, one of the reasonable ones, compared to Gohmert or whatever

Thus, the right of this country are all insane, all sick and twisted and demented...

sick sick fuckers

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

35. How about Giuliani apologize to Abner Louima?

Rudy took the side of the cops and Justin Volpe in that case and defended them. Of course, Volpe eventually confessed and pleaded guilty to sodomizing Louima with a broom.

and not a peep was said by Rudy for being wrong.

[blkmusclmachine]

36. Ghouliani says what??? And why should anybody care???

[jtuck004]

37. Is this in between the time he spends getting paid to scare people on tv as he sells

identity theft protection?

The more I hear of him the more I think I would rather have a terrorist as a neighbor.

[Demoiselle]

38. I have no words to describe how much I have always disliked Mr. Giuliani…. (nt)

[3catwoman3]

42. You are out of office, Mr. Giuliani.

STFU!!!

[Ramses]

43. Giuliani is a fucking bald faced liar

This is a guy, who a few decades ago, would have been calling for keeping schools segregated and supporting different bathrooms for blacks.

Rewind back a little and he would have been hootin at the base of a tree where a lynching was taking place.

This asshole is a lying racist piece of garbage

I cant stand his ugly face almost as much as Bush's

[sakabatou]

44. Fuck you, Rudy

God I hate the guy.

[workinclasszero]

45. Fuck off Rudy!

Rudy is a reich wing racist POS!

[rewinn]

48. Giuliani who?

Did he used to be somebody?

Cuz he sure talks like a nobody.

[appleannie1]

51. He is a once was, has been ass. He needs to go away but like Sarah, he has to prove how

stupid he really is.

[MrMickeysMom]

60. Here's your apology photo, RUDY...

You and the other mouth breather offer mia culpas for taking up the oxygen...

[AngryOldDem]

61. Why? For what?

Why can't these old pols just go the fuck away once they're out of office? Why do they think they're still relevant?

And I think all this bullshit about people being told to hate the cops is just adding more fuel to the fire. But maybe that's what Giuliani and his ilk want.

[Vinca]

62. Let me guess . . . apologize for having a black son?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

65. "The Washington Post's fact checker gave his statement four Pinocchios,..."

Giuliani’s claim that Obama launched anti-police ‘propaganda’

By Michelle Ye Hee Lee December 23
@myhlee
[email protected]

....
The Pinocchio Test

Giuliani has a point that there is growing animosity among protesters toward police officers. That may have contributed to the actions of individuals such as Brinsley. But the burden of proof rests with the speaker. We combed through Obama’s speeches and can find no evidence of “propaganda” that “everybody should hate the police.”

Perhaps one could fault the president, as some conservatives do, for failing to more forcefully rebut violent demonstrations against police. But that’s an absence of rhetoric. Instead, Giuliani suggested that the president actively launched and promoted anti-police rhetoric — and that is simply Four-Pinocchio false. We would have liked Giuliani’s direct response and will update this column if he responds to our request for an interview.

Four Pinocchios



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