Jan Brewer signs abortion ban defining pregnancy before conception

I like Arizona but I think I am too afraid to ever go there again.

Are there enough people to get her the fuck out of office?

I can only hope there are enough inteeligent and aware citizens in Arizona to vote out those extremists in their state government at the next election.

However, after a four-year break, she can run and serve another 8 years, if she manages to avoid exposure to sunlight that long.

I extend my deepest sympathies to those of you who are still sane and living in Arizona. You will not be forgotten in your hour of need. Just get behind the first thing that even looks like they're running for governor and get them elected. ANYTHING is better than Brewer, even the dog catcher!

Most of us here are straight-D every election, but at this point the only people left who have an actual interest in voting Republican are the very people we are all hoping will take their toys and leave the country once they have to pay a fair tax rate.

That of course won't prevent the knuckle-draggers from voting against their own best interests, as they can be counted upon to do, but thirty percent plus jack shit from liberals, moderates, independents, women, and all minorities and social out-groups adds up to a landslide, perhaps among the largest political swings in our lifetimes.

What a maroon!! This will not stand constitutional muster. Please allow me to nominate Arizona for the designation of worst state in the country. And I thought Bachmann was nuts. This is what happens when not very intelligent wingnuts get to drive the train. If this story gets international legs, we'll be the laughingstock of the civilized world.

Zip, Zilch, Nada, From Fox, Drugged, or any wrong wing blog.

Isn't this the twit who went all over claiming she was askeered of the Prez because he supposedly attacked her right out there in God's green acres in broad daylight. (and didn't even bother wearing his hoodie to prewarn her of his thuggery?)

according to SCOTUS.

Another R dangerous moron.

you do realize the people you are really insulting are transgendered people, right? this could get you (deservedly) banned from DU.

Did not even know she was Catholic.

before I became pregnant was a week before my wedding, and I was still a virgin.

If I had called off the wedding, would I have still been considered "pregnant?"

And shame on you for getting knocked up pre-flagrante delicto!

Shame!

I could be having sex right now on this bus and not even know it!

Tell them to get with the program!

Women are born with their lifetime supply of eggs. That makes all eggs potential humans, and no medical procedure shall be permitted to block the life of that pre-born human.

I'm snarking, of course. But somewhere in Jan Brewer's AZ, or at an ALEC gathering or Operation Rescue bunker, a deranged anti-choice zealot is smiling at the legislative possibilities.

I'm not kidding.

It took me several years after conception before I learned to write.

Same with all those other fucking brain-dead repukes.

according to this new math, if you are a virgin on your wedding night and have a baby 40 weeks later, that baby conceived out of wedlock?

What will the bible thumpers say to this!

I don't think the GOPers have thought this through...

stonings.

Brewer signs a bill favored by evangelicals, who are lukewarm about Romney.

The bill is immediately challenged and injoined. At it's first federal test, it's booted.

Romney then gets to go to Arizona (a battleground state) and fire up conservatives about his respect for the unborn, his disgust with the activist juduciary, and his love for Jan Brewer ("...who gave a marvelous lecture to President Obama --let me tell you")

Meanwhile, very little has actually changed. Brewer simply signed a law that everyone knew wouldn't make it past the first court test.

but it doesn't go far enough. a woman should be considered pregnant even if she just sniffs the exhaust from the truck that brings the pregnancy test kits to the neighborhood store.

Just as hazardous and vile a place for anyone with a uterus to live.

for those not old enough to know the term: when somebody was a (mere) twinkle in their father's eye (humorous)
at a time before someone was born All this happened a very long time ago, when you were a mere twinkle in your father's eye.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/when+was+a+twinkle+in+father%27s+eye

Are these fetuses Brewer is so concerned about more vulnerable than the children of Iraq were on 9/12/2001?

before 18-20 weeks.

This is a way to erode Roe v. Wade. Arizona Gov. and legislature determined no abortion could be performed after 20 weeks, then determined pregnancy starts 2 weeks before conception.
20 - 2 = 18.

But nary a peep about men and their sperm-wasting activities.

There is enough awful about Brewer without interjecting a comment like this.
Her value as a human, or lack of it in this case, has nothing to do with her sex life or her attractiveness as a woman.
It's a stupid and misogynistic comment.

If you're "pregnant" two weeks before having sex, and a fetus is a "person," then we can declare another dependent on our tax return!

Hurry! Offer expires at midnight tonight (or does the IRS give us one more day since the 15th falls on a Sunday?)

Uh-oh! Another thought... If a "baby" isn't born after we declare it on our tax return (you know, we just didn't have sex during the following two weeks), then will we be investigated for "murder?"

This is all so very confusing...

Under the right circumstances, of course.

Is a Commom Sense vaccine available?

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This is an atrocity and government overreach..how the fuck does this bullshit create jobs!?!?!?

Repukes make me sick. fuck'em all.

Seriously!

It happened in Indiana. Although the attempt to legislate pi was ultimately unsuccessful, it did come pretty close. In 1897 Representative T.I. Record of Posen county introduced House Bill #246 in the Indiana House of Representatives. The bill, based on the work of a physician and amateur mathematician named Edward J. Goodwin (Edwin in some accounts), suggests not one but three numbers for pi, among them 3.2, as we shall see. The punishment for unbelievers I have not been able to learn, but I place no credence in the rumor that you had to spend the rest of your natural life in Indiana.

Just as people today have a hard time accepting the idea that the speed of light is the speed limit of the universe, Goodwin and Record apparently couldn't handle the fact that pi was not a rational number. "Since the rule in present use fails to work ..., it should be discarded as wholly wanting and misleading in the practical applications," the bill declared. Instead, mathematically inclined Hoosiers could take their pick among the following formulae:

(1) The ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference is 5/4 to 4. In other words, pi equals 16/5 or 3.2

(2) The area of a circle equals the area of a square whose side is 1/4 the circumference of the circle. Working this out algebraically, we see that pi must be equal to 4.

(3) The ratio of the length of a 90 degree arc to the length of a segment connecting the arc's two endpoints is 8 to 7. This gives us pi equal to the square root of 2 x 16/7, or about 3.23.


http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/805/did-a-state-legislature-once-pass-a-law-saying-pi-equals-3

but that is the standard definition of gestational age. I'm not sure it is any different than Nebraska's law - haven't checked to see if Nebraska bothered to define it, but if they didn't it would most likely have defaulted to the medical definition:



The reason I know this is that we knew exactly when our daughter was conceived, because her conception was by donor insemination. So I always thought it was bizarre that throughout my pregnancy, I was routinely treated as if conception had occurred approximately three weeks earlier, on the first day of my last period - because that is the standard all pregnancy care is based on.

(Not defending the law - just providing a reality check that all the bill does is expressly call in the medical definition of gestation)