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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:23 PM Dec 2014

Undercover cops outed, attacked at Oakland protest — 1 pulls gun

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

An undercover law enforcement officer from an outside agency who was attempting to infiltrate a demonstration against police brutality in Oakland pulled a gun on the protesters after he and his partner were outed and the partner was attacked.

The undercover work — captured by a freelance photographer working for The Chronicle — raised questions about tactics employed by police and protesters as authorities seek to get a handle on rallies that have flooded the streets of Oakland, Berkeley and San Francisco, at times shutting down freeways and devolving into vandalism and looting.

About 50 people were marching near Lake Merritt just after 11:30 p.m. Wednesday when some of the demonstrators began calling out two men who were walking with the group, said the freelance photographer, Michael Short.

... “We have received a number of questions about the incident,” Frank Bonifacio, an Oakland police spokesman, said in an e-mail Thursday. “We are referring all inquiries regarding this incident to the California Highway Patrol.”



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Undercover-cops-outed-attacked-at-Oakland-5951011.php

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Undercover cops outed, attacked at Oakland protest — 1 pulls gun (Original Post) Newsjock Dec 2014 OP
That's what happens when you are a dirty, stinking, lying traitor. They shoot spies, for cause. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #1
A traitor? And, advocating execution of same? brooklynite Dec 2014 #13
The media will always report the police officer's version of events as fact. 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #2
+1 daleanime Dec 2014 #15
Where would you suggest an "alleged" Android3.14 Dec 2014 #27
"the partner allegedly was attacked" rogerashton Dec 2014 #30
If the journalist witnessed it Android3.14 Dec 2014 #36
Gee... I wonder why more people are losing faith in law enforcment. Veilex Dec 2014 #3
Government secrecy is elitist bluestateguy Dec 2014 #4
Is that a finger on the trigger, too? eggplant Dec 2014 #5
and held sideways Major Nikon Dec 2014 #8
Of course it was police sanctioned. Unknown Beatle Dec 2014 #16
The article says... smiley Dec 2014 #17
No tin foil, CHP (like CHiPs, but without the good teeth) MADem Dec 2014 #21
We May Have Uncovered Sparhawk60 Dec 2014 #23
The sideways gun makes me wonder if he's really even a cop. Frank Cannon Dec 2014 #24
His hand is off the trigger. rogerashton Dec 2014 #31
Glad to see heaven05 Dec 2014 #6
Jerry's kids reddread Dec 2014 #7
Instigating Violence No Doubt billhicks76 Dec 2014 #9
Notice how he's all "bad" and "gangsta" with the sideways gun. PSPS Dec 2014 #10
Assholes with guns who protect assholes with money. nt valerief Dec 2014 #11
I see he holds his gat sideways, Ash_F Dec 2014 #12
attacked, hell! azureblue Dec 2014 #14
Thanks. I was trying to figure out what was going on there. C Moon Dec 2014 #20
He and his partner need to be doxed. nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #19
Welcome Back! RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #22
And Then... Sparhawk60 Dec 2014 #25
So, did the fan Feral Child Dec 2014 #28
That gun is pointed at all of us. rug Dec 2014 #26
Thread winner! Sincere hat tip! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #35
stupid stupid stupid Locrian Dec 2014 #29
Yep, respect for the police christx30 Dec 2014 #34
And "...they will continue..." GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #32
Jeebus....those two look like cops from a mile away. Who ever ran that operation msanthrope Dec 2014 #33
Cops causing sh!t and getting away w/it. SSDD blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #37
police provocateurs LiberalLovinLug Dec 2014 #38
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
1. That's what happens when you are a dirty, stinking, lying traitor. They shoot spies, for cause. n/t
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:26 PM
Dec 2014
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
2. The media will always report the police officer's version of events as fact.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:27 PM
Dec 2014
An undercover law enforcement officer from an outside agency who was attempting to infiltrate a demonstration against police brutality in Oakland pulled a gun on the protesters after he and his partner were outed and the partner was attacked.


You won't find the words "alleged" or "allegedly" anywhere in the article.

If there is ever a real discussion about police brutality, the media's response to these incidents also need to be addressed.
 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
3. Gee... I wonder why more people are losing faith in law enforcment.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:30 PM
Dec 2014

Surely, it couldn't be because of subversive tactics. Golly gosh, that would never happen!

/sarcasm off

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. and held sideways
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:50 PM
Dec 2014

The gun also looks like it's SS, which leads me to believe it isn't police issue and might be his own. I wonder if this was even a police sanctioned activity or he was just in the crowd on his own trying to be some kind of fucked up hero.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
16. Of course it was police sanctioned.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:42 PM
Dec 2014

Otherwise if their superiors found out they were going rogue, they would be in trouble. Or maybe not, they'll probably get a medal either way.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. No tin foil, CHP (like CHiPs, but without the good teeth)
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 05:36 AM
Dec 2014

They were supposedly trying to figure out where people were going to shut down the highways, according to the article, anyway.

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
23. We May Have Uncovered
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 07:23 AM
Dec 2014

why the cops are such lousy shots. Holding the gun side ways? He not a professional and should be fired on the spot. His whole aspect looks like a wanta-be bad ass, but with out the discipline required to be truly skilled.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
24. The sideways gun makes me wonder if he's really even a cop.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 07:26 AM
Dec 2014

I know cops, and none of them would do that. This guy's seen too many low-budget gangsta movies.

PSPS

(13,588 posts)
10. Notice how he's all "bad" and "gangsta" with the sideways gun.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:00 PM
Dec 2014

In the old days, cops like this were considered rogue and "removed" in one way or another either by the force or by the public. But now we're a country of cowards who apparently prefer the role of victim in a sadistic society.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
14. attacked, hell!
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:05 PM
Dec 2014

The kid on the bottom called them out and they got mad and jumped the kid for exposing them. The cops didn't get attacked. The thug in the grey jacket threw the kid to the ground and the cracker cop started waving his piece around, like thugs do.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
20. Thanks. I was trying to figure out what was going on there.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 04:15 AM
Dec 2014

Was then kid on the ground arrested, then? Seems illogical enough for they way police have been operating.

Response to Newsjock (Original post)

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
25. And Then...
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 07:27 AM
Dec 2014

You fire a shot, gun recoils to the side , it is a lot harder to regain your sight picture for the next shot. Try it next time you are at the range.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
28. So, did the fan
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 07:54 AM
Dec 2014

look like a demon? How many rounds did you pump into that thug-fan?

You lose credibility immediately with your photo. You may have a "cool" sight picture, you've got no sight alignment whatsoever.

If you look upstream in the thread, you'll see a couple more cop apologists; maybe ya'll can meet up at Dunkin Donuts later.

OK?

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
29. stupid stupid stupid
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 07:55 AM
Dec 2014

This is going to get ugly. A crowd is not a person - they're playing with fire here and it may turn on them.

Crowds can do unpredictable things, feed off others, and amplify actions. It sounds like the cops were scared shitless (good) - you don't take on a crowd.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
34. Yep, respect for the police
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:47 AM
Dec 2014

and the law only goes so far. If enough people are pissed, they will rip anyone apart. Can't arrest everyone. It's just not physically possible.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
32. And "...they will continue..."
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:17 AM
Dec 2014
Avery Browne, chief of CHP’s Golden Gate Division, said the agency and other police departments have had plainclothes officers dressed in protester attire walking in these marches since the first demonstration Nov. 24, and he said they will continue to employ this tactic despite Tuesday’s incident.


at OP link

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
33. Jeebus....those two look like cops from a mile away. Who ever ran that operation
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:19 AM
Dec 2014

really sucks at undercover operational detail.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
38. police provocateurs
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 02:42 PM
Dec 2014

Paid to blend in and then encourage or even start illegal behavior like smashing windows or throwing rocks at (fellow) police. It will usually entice the more dim witted and angry to follow along until the situation is out of control. Then they slip away and uniformed police move in with tear gas and batons. Its become the norm for police now, not just in the US. It helps to present the image of protesters being made up of punks and criminals for the corporate media to lap up and present to the public. And it also helps to solidify more funding for police departments including riot and military equipment.

Many documented incidents including this one where cops had to admit to it. A union rep called them out while one was holding a big rock in his hand.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebec-police-admit-they-went-undercover-at-montebello-protest-1.656171

I wonder what these assholes orders were?

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