Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:59 PM
avaistheone1 (11,763 posts)
Texas Christian school fires unwed pregnant teacher
Source: Raw Story
A Christian school in Texas has fired an unmarried science teacher because it claimed she was not a good “Christian role model” — even after she offered to get married. Cathy Samford, who is now 39 weeks pregnant, told ABC News that she was “totally shocked” when Heritage Christian Academy in Rockwall, Texas fired her from her job as a science teacher and volleyball coach after they discovered she was pregnant late last year. “I’m not just some teacher that went out to a bar and got pregnant and went back to school saying it’s okay,” Samford explained. “I was in a committed relationship the whole time and probably would have been married if things had gone differently and this would be a non-situation.” “I didn’t think I would lose my job,” she said. “I was in shock and devastated and that’s when I said, ‘If this is the problem, I’m willing, and so is my fiancé, to go ahead and get married.’ That wasn’t the issue. We were going to get married regardless.” Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/12/texas-christian-school-fires-unwed-pregnant-teacher/ Where is the support for the "right to life" in this instance from the so called "right to life" community? ...Another example of Christian leadership not following their own tenets.
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| avaistheone1 | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| Ishoutandscream2 | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| Roland99 | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| MrBig | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| LiberalFighter | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| yellowcanine | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| IcyPeas | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| Blue_Tires | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| Posteritatis | Apr 2012 | #33 | |
| Speck Tater | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| sybylla | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| AlbertCat | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| wendylaroux | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| Iris | Apr 2012 | #27 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| patrice | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| fasttense | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| FloriTexan | Apr 2012 | #22 | |
| lunasun | Apr 2012 | #34 | |
| Botany | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| PatrynXX | Apr 2012 | #20 | |
| PatrynXX | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
| FloriTexan | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| yellowcanine | Apr 2012 | #18 | |
| Clouseau2 | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| Liber-AL | Apr 2012 | #28 | |
| KT2000 | Apr 2012 | #21 | |
| AnneD | Apr 2012 | #23 | |
| Igel | Apr 2012 | #31 | |
| EC | Apr 2012 | #24 | |
| SheilaT | Apr 2012 | #25 | |
| PassingFair | Apr 2012 | #38 | |
| Hoyt | Apr 2012 | #26 | |
| Dont call me Shirley | Apr 2012 | #29 | |
| Joseph8th | Apr 2012 | #32 | |
| freshwest | Apr 2012 | #30 | |
| tabasco | Apr 2012 | #35 | |
| brooklynite | Apr 2012 | #36 | |
| jenwilson | Apr 2012 | #39 | |
| blackspade | Apr 2012 | #37 | |
| SydBAThule | Apr 2012 | #40 | |
| truebrit71 | Apr 2012 | #41 | |
| Sgent | Apr 2012 | #42 | |
| Tx4obama | Apr 2012 | #43 |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:01 PM
Ishoutandscream2 (6,054 posts)
1. This is where I live. And this is not surprising
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I always say this is the most conservative county in Texas, and perhaps in the nation as well. This is not surprising at all.
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:01 PM
Roland99 (36,493 posts)
2. probably in the fine print somewhere to follow what they determine are "good Christian values"
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:03 PM
MrBig (475 posts)
3. Interesting...
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If she'd gotten an abortion, the school would have been none the wiser and she'd still have a job.
I wonder if the school realizes that they are, in a sense, promoting abortion through their employment practices. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:04 PM
LiberalFighter (31,076 posts)
4. If she had gotten an abortion? Then what?
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:05 PM
yellowcanine (24,444 posts)
5. Do they fire male teachers who get their girlfriends preggers?
Response to yellowcanine (Reply #5)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:32 PM
IcyPeas (3,200 posts)
11. good question yellowcanine, that is what always goes through my mind too.
Response to yellowcanine (Reply #5)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:35 PM
Blue_Tires (31,659 posts)
13. +infinity
Response to yellowcanine (Reply #5)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:54 PM
Posteritatis (17,277 posts)
33. Ha! Ha! Hahahahahahahaha! (nt)
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:06 PM
Speck Tater (10,618 posts)
6. "totally shcoked" that fundamentalists act like assholes? Really? nt
Response to Speck Tater (Reply #6)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:21 PM
sybylla (7,251 posts)
10. My thoughts exactly. nt
Response to Speck Tater (Reply #6)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
AlbertCat (10,450 posts)
14. "totally shocked"
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Well.. she doesn't seem too bright for a science teacher.... I mean if she's totally shocked.
I wonder if she teaches evolution too! |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:07 PM
wendylaroux (555 posts)
7. ??? Bar pregnancy??
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Even that kind is no ones beeswax.
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Response to wendylaroux (Reply #7)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:08 PM
Iris (13,878 posts)
27. And there you go.
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What a hypocrite. If people want to live a fundamentally Christian life that has to justify pregnancy in this way, then they should expect to pay the consequences. It's just another case of being all for a strict code of morality except when it comes to oneself.
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:10 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,377 posts)
8. And, unfortunately ...
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A recent SCOTUS says that religious institutions (including schools) can fire it's employees, even if in direct conflict with federal civil rights laws.
Time for religious institutions to pay taxes or be completely barred from receiving ANY public money. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:16 PM
patrice (47,345 posts)
9. Pro-Life LIES!!! Pro-WAR political whores!!! "Let them die" without-health-care-&-without-vote Repug
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Last edited Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:19 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) lycants!
NO KINGS!!!!!! |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:33 PM
fasttense (14,432 posts)
12. And yet Christians like this were and are perfectly fine with Sarah Palin's daughter
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having a kid out of wedlock. What kind of role model would the Palin family be if Sarah had become VP?
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Response to fasttense (Reply #12)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:21 PM
FloriTexan (522 posts)
22. Yep...
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One of my neighbors works at this school and they have no shortage of mccain/palin stickers on their vehicles.
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Response to fasttense (Reply #12)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:32 PM
lunasun (3,593 posts)
34. exactly thank you
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:40 PM
Botany (36,035 posts)
15. Way to be Christian
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Last edited Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Jesus was born to an unwed mother w/ Joe playing the role of dad ....
Jesus also stopped the stoning of a prostitute w/ "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." I AM SICK TO DEATH OF THESE UNAMERICAN FUCKTARDS WHO THINK THEY ARE GOD'S VOICE ON EARTH BEING NASTY BULLIES TO OTHER PEOPLE. MAYBE SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST HAD AN ABORTION TO KEEP THINGS COOL. BTW is it roll or role and when do I use site or sight Botany = |
Response to Botany (Reply #15)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:17 PM
PatrynXX (2,558 posts)
20. well that argument won't help
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certainly not assholes either. there is this thing called seperation of church and state. hope it stays that way. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:42 PM
PatrynXX (2,558 posts)
16. it's still out of wedlock
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don't forget Michael English got panned for having a kid out of wedlock. was barred from doing so called Christian music. course real Christian music, usually involves the singer making little money
so whether one intends to get married or not, the out of wedlock thing is what did it. She would have known this. Don't work for a Christian school, unless you do things by the book. That being said. I disagree with this one. As the out of wedlock thing is out of date. Mistakes happen. Explain this to Bristol Palin... and she's not trying to get married. But I'm guessing many folks at that school just adore Bristol anyway. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:48 PM
FloriTexan (522 posts)
17. Posted in Texas forum
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10782333
Hell froze over - first time a christian organization is not pro-life! |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:57 PM
yellowcanine (24,444 posts)
18. How can they be sure it wasn't an immaculate conception?
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I am surprised she didn't try that...
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:04 PM
Clouseau2 (55 posts)
19. She should consider herself lucky she's only losing her job!
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If her employer's actually followed the bible, she would be stoned to death!
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Response to Clouseau2 (Reply #19)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:26 PM
Liber-AL (71 posts)
28. and shortly thereafter they would all be facing murder charges!
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And singing "Kume by ya" wouldn't hep a bit!
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:18 PM
KT2000 (9,715 posts)
21. Text book case
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The anti-abortion crowd has turned unmarried women who choose to give birth into martyrs for their cause. Unfortunately, the women do not realize that it is these same people who will condemn them for getting pregnant in the first place. Cut healthcare for the mother and babies, fire the "witches," cut food programs for the babies etc.
Disgusting. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:24 PM
AnneD (14,841 posts)
23. Moral Turpitude clause...
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Last edited Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:27 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) it is still in most teacher's contracts in Texas, even public schools. A holdover from the days when teacher's were either unmarried or spinsters.
Edited to add...and yes, you can get fired for moral turpitude, even in a public school, let alone a fundi school. |
Response to AnneD (Reply #23)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:45 PM
Igel (17,557 posts)
31. It's odd nobody's pointed that out before.
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Teachers get fired for a lot of reasons. Many of them involving perfectly legal behavior.
Get drunk and post the pictures on Facebook so your kids can see them. Sexist comments might get you in hot water. Racist--or even things that might appear racist--will get you canned. Heck, I suspect that if a teacher started some sort of notorious personal ministry site, pushing some religion in a way that might be deemed to be targeting students, he'd lose his contract. "Moral turpitude" is very much in the eye of the principal and school board. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:08 PM
EC (11,401 posts)
24. It's not like half of the female students there
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Last edited Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:10 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) wouldn't end up the same way, with just abstinence as sex education. It's usually the Christian school's girls around here that turn up as teen-age mothers.
On edit: I wonder how many of those that decided to fire her applauded Palin's kid's decision to keep her baby? |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:16 PM
SheilaT (12,447 posts)
25. I can't believe she's so naive as
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to think being an unwed mother would in any way be less than openly welcome by the Christian school. It's not exactly breaking news that they would oppose illegitimate children. And the nonsense about being in a committed relationship and probably would have been married simply shows her own level of hypocrisy. I would love to hear exactly why she and her fiance couldn't manage to get married before she got pregnant.
While I personally have no problem with people living together, and although I also think it's really a much better idea to get married before having a baby, in this case she should have had some better sense of what teaching at a Christian school is all about. |
Response to SheilaT (Reply #25)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:17 AM
PassingFair (20,435 posts)
38. Thank you!
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:21 PM
Hoyt (12,115 posts)
26. I feel sorry for those kids too.
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:21 PM
Dont call me Shirley (1,395 posts)
29. Shouldn't that headline read: Texas Anti-christian School.....
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The Texas Anti-Christ school is the one setting the bad example by not following the teachings of Jesus. Jesus was loving, compassionate and accepting of all.
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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #29)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:49 PM
Joseph8th (228 posts)
32. Nope... because...
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... that's just the "real Christians" argument. Since belief is all subjective (read: all in your head), there is no such thing as a "real Christian." It's just whoever calls themselves that, is that. That's why all the centuries of various inter-Christian wars, and why the 1st Amendment.
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:41 PM
freshwest (31,394 posts)
30. Fired for being pro-life.
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:36 PM
tabasco (18,290 posts)
35. WWJD?
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Fuckin' hypocrites.
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:10 PM
brooklynite (12,832 posts)
36. Has anyone considered the possibility...
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...that she was fired for teaching Science?
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #36)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
jenwilson (47 posts)
39. That sounds like the more likely scenario
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They're against math and science. She probably taught some geometry or some other type of "devil tricks' to the kids
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:45 PM
blackspade (2,435 posts)
37. Shocking! Christians kicking pregnant women to the curb?
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In Texas no less?
Inconcievable! |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:42 AM
SydBAThule (25 posts)
40. This is what happens to workers
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Who are not members of a strong union.
People need to take heed else they will be next. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:32 PM
truebrit71 (16,884 posts)
41. How christian of them...
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Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:40 PM
Sgent (3,771 posts)
42. Catholic schools in NOLA
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prohibit sex outside of marriage for their teachers.
They also require that any Catholic teacher be married by a priest in a Catholic ceremony. |
Response to avaistheone1 (Original post)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:29 PM
Tx4obama (28,831 posts)


