Allen West: I've 'Heard' 80 House Democrats Are Communist Party Members

Hell, name them all--you cannot make a declaration like that and then say "uh, I don't know..." Of course you know--and if you were a "good American", you would out them for being the scourge of the country your party is still trying to make them.

So go on... we're waiting. Name ONE. I fucking dare you.



Oh, and the reason why the President is not going to debate you? You are not running for the office of Presidency. That is the only person a standing President debates. You and that ignorant ass spalin barking your demands for a debate with a standing president--you both are delusional as to your own puffed up sense of self-importance.

for someone who is going to lose when it's his turn to run for re-election, you'd think he'd stfu and do something constructive to bring prosperity and jobs to south florida instead of shooting off his mouth. The military obviously does not teach much discipline.

Well said...

There has to be at least one vacant for this character. How insane does a member of congress have to be to get the room?

SPEAKER: Allen West. Allen West. Your room is ready.

not the Socialist Party of America. Duh.

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html

What an idiot ... we should be so lucky as to have 80 communists in this country - most were deported decades ago. And that is part of the reason the capitalism has spiraled out of control. Labor had a lot more power to influence elections back in the 1920s-40s. That threat made programs like the New Deal possible. Contrast that to today.

You have posted an urban myth, and welcome to DU.

aside from the fact that unless they're west, I wasn't talking to them.

Thanks, slackmaster!

I'm still puzzling over how he even got elected here. The man is certifiable. While most of the rest of the state is comprised of wingnuts, South Florida is usually blue.

from Rethugs with $$$$$$$$$.

I'm AA and I wanted to put my fist on the tv screen when I see him.

Another Brother being used -- sad.

in "The Manchurian Candidate."

I know for a fact that if I had been in the audience I would have laughed heartily out loud!

The media needs to ask Willard where he stands on Allen 'Cut and Run" West's latest ugliness.

Hmm ... everybody (at least, Repugs) wants to be Joe McCarthy ...

BTW what district in Florida voted that jack wagon into power?

....the self-proclaimed war hero (more like war criminal) was too afraid he'd lose a re-election battle in that district, so he hopped ship to the 18th District which he percieved to be more safe.

when I read the headline of the OP.

Where is our side demanding he put up or shut up? Fucking war criminal loser.

Doesn't make it true.

The guy is an absolute loon.

just kidding

and the Soviet Union dissolved for 21 years. Red-baiting is soo passé that his assertion is redickaless.

I even got drunk w/ East German Soldiers in Dresden once.

Can you imagine if a Democrat had said something like this?

Still got my little piece of history, chipped out with my own two hands and a borrowed hammer.

The German media called us "woodpeckers"....remember that?

I have an East German flag he got over there.

I thought that, since the fall of the Soviet Union, the communists had been replaced by the terrorists as chief bogeymen, anyway.

I suppose that plays well to their small-minded base.

one of the worst eras of our country.

But these oldies are not golden. They're moldy.

Reminder: in 1860, the Republicans were the 'radical left' party -- JHB

and thanks for posting it.
Everything new under the sun and all that....

I have here in my hand a list of 80....


Wadda maroon.


Are there even any Communists around any more?

any real communist, what we called communism was more akin to fascism than actual communism, same thing with socialism. There has never been a true communist or socialist gov't - same goes for democracy- the last true democracy was in Greece sometime before the fifth century- what most countries have that is 'called' democracy actually is not a true democracy.

That would be news to the Greek women and slaves 500BCE

wrong - however Greece was the last true direct democracy- though short lived.

And no it did not include 'non-citizens' women or slaves. However until not to long ago neither did the US.

Any society which forbids more than half its adult citizens franchise can not be called a democracy.

Do you consider the USA a democracy even before suffrage ?

It's a republic with some democratic traditions rapidly becoming an oligarchy.

For the response- quite frankly I tend to encounter many people that claim the US is a democracy while not really understanding how a true democracy really works

with just enough free speech and a little democracy to thwart mass uprisings.

"Are there even any Communists around any more?"

No, not really. But your garden variety wing-nut desperately needs to believe that there are. It helps put them in a nice fuzzy-wuzzy 1950's frame of mind!
Right about now it's "bedcheck" time. One can't be too safe -- they like to lurk under decent folks beds y'know!

Bachmann would make a great VP candidate.

Typical NYC Lib

It could be funny - if not for the last time when the ghost of a "communist conspiration" against the US, let to ten of thousands innocents be accused, and even lost their livelihood because of a false accusation against been member of a communist party.. Even when it was never true... Even famous people, like Charlin Chaplin was accused of that. And in fact he had to leave the country, and he ended up in Switzerland as one of the more famous victims of the cold war paranoia...

So be beware for what could happened, if that shit start live on its own...

Diclotican

Not a scenario any generation wants to relive again.

The right certainly wants to give it 'a life of its own' as it's worked so well before. About a third of the people in this country have minds that simply quit functioning at the word 'socialism' or 'communism,' the imprint of infamous examples are all they hear, not the theories.

People losing their jobs and homes, the rich making out like bandits, just as they did before back in 1929, because the regulations FDR put in place have been eviscerated. They've been screaming 'economic crash and we must return to the gold standard,' because they desperately want a collapse. Our world is owned by the people who profited from that crash, because it was not a failure for their way of doing business.

Many people only think of the suffering of the many from the Great Depression, but great fortunes were made by the 1% as have been made since the 1980's. Reining them in is like Hercules cleaning the Augean stables, nasty, requiring guile and thankless.

The Bush family is as involved as they were then, and on the side of the authoritarians and war profiteers, just as they were then. Fox News and hate radio are Orwellian in their use of psychology. Demagogues are being elected state after state, and running for POTUS. Nazis are patrolling in Florida and other states and we have outbreaks of violence from the right.

Adding in the attacks on the poor and disabled, and all the other '14 Signs of Fascism,' and yes, I can see it 'happening here.' We're walking a fine line, and we may not win. We're in for a radical transformation of the world, hopefully for the better. IMHO.

freshwest

I don't know about cosmic cycles, but I do know what could happened, with the ones who doesn't learn from history. And stay vigilant when the same thing happened again.... And to be honest, most americans have no clue what could become them, if anything like the nazis ts was to ever rise their ugly head in the US... It was BAD in Europe under the nazi rule in Germany - and the occupation of most of Europe.. Until Pearl Harbor in 1941, President FDR had to go a thin like between been able to help UK and Churchill, and appease the many who wanted US to stay out of "an europe ran war we doesn't have any business going into".. And FDR had to play the game of being natural - but helping UK as best as he was able to do.... And to be honest, if it was not for the fact that Japan attacked Hawaii, I am afraid that UK, and most of EUROPE would have been under the sway of Hitler for a long time... UK was by November/December 1941 on the verge of suing for peace... The attack by Japan, and the answer from Germany and Hitler, why gave US the war (the speech was by experts on the issue properly the best oratorical speech Hitler ever was able to give the german people ever) Was one big vitamin pill for the UK, and for most of the occupied Europeans... When US got into the war, it was clearly Hitler was not able to win the war....

The great depressions in the 1930s was a horrible time, where many found them selfs in need of something to blame for their own misfortunes.. Many claimed it to be the jews - others claimed it to be other groups... In germany, as in Italy and in many other nations in Europe, it ended in fascism in one way or another... In US it thankfully doesn't ended in fascism, even tho it was a short wile, after FDR was elected president in 1933, that many US officers up to the rank of generals, wanted to make a coupe against the legal president - to give the US a more fascism like ideology... Thankfully to some decent, hardworking american officers, who decided to be on the right side of history, this coup never happened. Even tho the whole case was under the rug for more than 60 year after the facts... I think Roosevelt possible was afraid of what else could happened, if he wanted to make a stand against it, early in the 1930s.. Event ho he in the 1940 did more than anyone else in the US, to fight against the fascism in Europe or elsewhere.. But in the 1930s, Roosevelt had enough on his plate to repair, and the whole affair with the officers who wanted to make coup against the president never got the attention it should have been given....

You are also right in that some get a lot of money, on the back of the money, even under the deep depression.. Even tho many was hurt by the depression, some always came up on the top, even before world war two, who really got the train going - long after the war...

But the fact is, that US, doesn't have any Franklin D. Roosevelt in office now.. Your current president Obama, for all his virtues is just one man against a big ugly machine that doesn't want anything less than to squish him to small pieces if they could do it.. The Neo-liberal ideology who since Reagan have been given foot and hand in the US governance is the biggest treat to the same Democracy they claim to fight for... What they want, is a country ruled by the rich, for the rich and dam the rest.. After more or less managed to destroy the trade unions in the 1970s and 1980s, and castrate everyone who is against the ideology of the neo-liberalistic ideology I am not sure what to do, to win that war... But I do believe, that neo-liberal ideology is a danger to the world - as nazism was it before ..

The attack against disabled and poor is nothing new in the world.. It looks like disability is something that "healthy ones" can mock about, even when they might one day find them self in the same boat so to say. I am on disability myself - and I have found that even in my own country (who most americans I have known here on DU looks to as more or less heaven) some says that people with disability should get out working instead of living on the public dime... Well I have tried to get out in work for the last 2-3 years - and the employment office have more or less said "sorry, you are on disability and we doesn't want to take your case, as it Will be a long way to get you out in a job".... So yeah I know what it means, to be told "why are you not out working, you looks fine".. Yeah, they should have my arthritis, my depression and so one.... I would work, if I was able to.... But I'm not;/

The Bush family, specially the old Prescott Bush himself is a history of treason.. If it was one way of justice in the world, Prescott Bush should have been arrested, convicted, and put in a prison cell for the rest of his natural life for the treason against US.. Not just because he was bankrolling the nazi st who wanted to trow out Roosevelt in the 1930s.. But also for the fact, that he was doing business with the Nazi-Regime long after war was declared upon US in 1941...

The specially of hate radio is another specially for the extreme right in the US i would presume... Most of them would never been able, or given permission to even talk on most european channels, as most european nations still have a "fairness doctrine" intact in the airwaves.. I have had the misfortune of hearing some of the hate-radio by internet looking for some radios from US.. And i am pretty scared about the tone against minorities and everyone else who might be attacked that day.... That type of media would never be allowed on this side of the pond... We had that in the 1930s, when Dr Gobbles was making a scene for it all... Most of Europe, learned the hard way, what could happend if "hate" radio ever make it to the public again...

What we all need, is the americans to wake up and smell the shit as it is.. And then work against it to make US what it once was - a prosperius, rich country who the rest of the world was admiring and wanted to be like... The symbols of US, like the Coca-Cola and Mickey Mouse was one of the first symbols to really make it big in eastern Europe, after the wall was going down... That symbols could again mean something for most of us... As it once did (even tho Cola is maybe not the most healty ideal to live by )

Sometimes I miss the time when I admired US for all its virtues, and for all the god things she did for the world.. The last decade of so, have been a great disapointed for me.... US is not what I once belived it to be...

Diclotican

First of all I have no problems with Communists participating in our democratic political system. They have as much a right as a fascist to engage in discussion and persuasion.

But as to his allegations, he has no proof and I would suggest there is not a single member of Congress that is a member of the Communist Party.

He is a two-bit party hack.

How does that work, since the only Reds these days are Republicans?


Dear Hon. Rep. West: I've heard Washington is filled with batshit-crazy Republicans. Frankly, sir, that claim has much more proof than yours.

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?".

Are there that many still left in the Russian Parliament?

Positive, in fact.

I just said it myself, and I overhead it.

Good one! Thanks for the laugh!

even after over 60 warnings beforehand. I heard he just sat there looking stupid like a total Republican fail artiste and did doodley squat reading a children's book while America was under attack by the Bush family cronies from Saudi Arabia. One does hear a lot of strange things.

"Dang-it. I'm going to have to miss the Rangers game on Saturday."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101483666

The GOP is desperate to distract the easily distracted that ANYBODY other than THEM is the problem!

some sort of punishment for out and out lies. If he starts naming names, I hope they sue the pants off this d..k. The lying has to stop and this guy is the worst. Or he's just plain stupid and gullable...I'll bet all the other house members laugh at this guy. And to think he's an Officer in the military...makes me wonder about the intelligence of the rest.

from being sued for anything he says on the House floor. That's long-held Constitutional protection. I don't know where he happened to drop this gem.

And unfortunately, I think he probably believes what he's saying. I think the guy has a cracked bell.

But I won't name my sources.

To paraphrase our President, "He's a jackass."

Yes, Florida and GOP. You own him.

West is her "rogue" pick for VP.
You betcha!

game changer? yep, you betcha, flush right down the toilet.

Now certainly, I don't believe that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990, but the fact that I've heard dozens say that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 does beg the question of how such a rumor that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 would be floating out there. It's quite the accusation that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 and it really needs to be substantiated or at the very least, his office needs to forcefully deny that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 less it becomes an Internet meme or something...

Because she knew which 80 Democrats in the House of Representatives were Communists. (It's proof of the conspiracy that it is always a consistent 80. There is a laundry list somewhere that explains why.)

Well, that's what I heard.

Just sayin'...

oh hell..I heard a rumour about something.

You know, if there really was any kind of equivalence to the "left" and "right", like they were legitimate political divisions of people, then the entirety of DU would consist of that sort of rumor-mongering - OR - Free Republic would ban trolls and liars as fast as DU does.

I think I like this arrangement better.

at least one Florida Congressman is clinically insane...

I can state that it's not just a rumor. And there's a lot more than one.

. . . and the salaries of congressional members who think global warming's a hoax and America would be better off as a theocracy.

That, to me, is probably scarier shit than Red-Baiting in 2012.

Does that make us taxpayers 'enablers'?

but you sneak some bacon when nobody's looking.

West-Worst-Wuss

the doltish Senator Iselin portrayed by the great James Gregory, can't decide on the number of commies in congress, is ninety too many,

fifty too few. Something like that, I can't recall the exact numbers.

not again may he end up like his american idol

they are the reds! Aren't they?

NBC's 1980 Electoral Map had it right: Why the zeitgeist changed is something I'll never know.

exposing himself and some of this gopper colleagues. Remember when they are blaming someone else it means its them who are goind the deed.

You have been exposed Mr. Ahole

Instead of the corporate shills they seem to be.

"As many as 80" includes "zero."

See? He's not lying.

That film hasn't lost any of its brilliance or bite in 50 years...

are members of the Nazi party...or so I've been told.

telling blatant lies to his brain-dead supporters, who is only on the national scene because his is a black teabagger.

we owe hundreds of billions of dollars to RED CHINA.

just think of the people who vote for this idiot....

I can't elaborate beyond that.

After all, the British Crown is still a threat to the colonies' independence!

Q. Out of all that West could imagine Dems to be, *W*H*Y* would he imagine THAT particular boogey-man??? A. Projecting his inner socialist onto others, so that he can exonerate himself.

When you're a bent nail, even if you are a king, everyone looks like a hammer.

.............................................

Apparently his constituents are starting to use the word "Socialist" in unrestricted ways not prescribed by the media engineers who brought us "morning in America".

Out all night peering into windows, always on the lookout for suspected commies, "sex perverts", and other affronts to America and apple pie. There you have it. Now you've heard it too!

and that the sky is down and that water is not wet....

Of course, he'll have to sit in the back of the bus....

How original!

Goddamn is this guy embarrassingly dumb. He's become a parody.

And that "dozens of his republi-CON colleagues in the House are members of the Goat-Fuckers Auxiliary to the GOP. But I won't elaborate beyond that. There are currently more than 200 miserable republi-CON vermin in the House.

Pass it on.

Whew! At least the Democratic Party isn't affected!







What a moron!

a dumbass..

Weren't Communists referred to once upon a time as the Reds?

Aren't Conservatives supposed to be blue?

Then why are Republican states now known as Red States and Democratic states known as Blue States?

Wasn't there a phrase once upon a time "Better dead than red"?

Mr. West, where's your proof?

What an asshat.

and still be elected to Congress.

It's not against the law to be a member of a political party.
Of course, the Communist Party probably has about 80 members altogether, so is West suggesting that the whole party is in congress?

I used to work a block away from Communist Party headquarters on 23rd street in Manhattan.
I stopped in there once to check it out, mainly for laughs.
It was pretty pathetic.
A couple of sad, lonely old commies and some badly written material, and that was about it.
Nothing to be afraid of there.

West is a nutball...

That would really have added to the effect.

and I can name names.

He needs to be put in the spot light and asked to explain himself.

Guy's a fucking clown. He's not goingg anywhere.

In reality he is just an asshat.

I truly wish there were some communists in the mix to balance out all the fascists populating the center and right in this country.

He wants his speech back.

got it west, no go back under your rock

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/barney-frank-allen-west_n_1418537.html

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) on Wednesday tore into Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) for saying that members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus are communists.

"Not even Joe McCarthy would have said anything so stupid and dissociated from reality," Frank said in a call with The Huffington Post. "It's an indication of the significant deterioration of the Republican Party as a responsible entity that an ignorant, mean guy like Allen West is considered one of their stars."

that you are, in essence, a war criminal. You just got damned lucky and was never formally charged with that offense.

How do you answer that one?

Too Leftist.

Don't want to be a copycat.

...West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers." The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.

Fucking scumbag.

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US

AW hit every branch on the stupid tree then hit a trampoline and smacked them all again, it would appear.

It would be news if he said something wise.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125127471

Sarah Palin says there’s one name at the top of her list if the Republican Party wants to “go rogue” in its pick for the vice presidential nominee: Rep. Allen West.

The former vice presidential candidate told Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Tuesday that the Florida Republican would be a great choice for the 2012 ticket. She argued that the eventual presidential nominee shouldn’t “think they have to go with somebody necessarily safe.”

“Top of my list is Allen West,” she said. “I love that he has that military experience. He is a public servant willing to serve for the right reasons. He understands the Constitution. He understands our national foreign policy issues that must be addressed. He has served. I really like him. There are so many, Sean, that are out there. And when I talk about going rogue, what I want to do is encourage the GOP nominee to not think that they have to go with somebody necessarily safe that conventional wisdom perhaps would lead somebody to believe that, if it’s somebody, quote-unquote, safe, that they’re not going to get beat up by the media, because no matter who it is.”

to propose legislation to make slavery legal again.

If Communists are so bad, how come our major corporate masters have sent our highest technology and so many of our jobs to Communist China?

Why doesn't Mr. West complain to our corporate masters for their massive support of Communists?

This turd for brains is jockeying for a spot on the fox-propaganda network when he gets booted out of his Congress seat in disgrace in the next election. What a complete idiot.

And filled with shit.

And the Senate Republicans belong to the American Taliban!

Now we can confirm he hears voices.

Even Karl Rove wouldn't say this. It went so well the first time.

Obscenities, personal attacks, yes, but not political opinions. At least there's a Show option.

Let the rightwing insanity hang out, the poster might learn something, like he's posted an urban legend.

My local Patch hides comments irretrievably if enough other readers vote against them. That's why I no longer give them my clicks.

"I don't have facts to back this up."

so I feel that I can say this ~ There are so many brilliant members of our race that could be elected/have been elected to political positions ~ and then we have:

Clarence Thomas

Mr. 999 Herman Cain

and this WEST idiot!

All three IMO were hand picked to do the dirty work for the GOP.

It has been my view that the GOP may have given CAIN all that Air Time so that Whites that were a bit more liberal would think that they were "reaching out" to our race ~ wrong!

CAIN is a finished fool (everyone that I know was ashamed that 999 was AA -- he set our race back at least 50 years. I believe that the GOP was afraid that he was going to get too much support so they "found" the " AA girlfriend" with all the phone calls and they let him sink.

I don't hardly believe that the AA community where he lived ( Georgia?) didn't know all about his little lunch dates etc. with that lady --- they knew but many times we will let our politicians and community "leaders" get away with stuff.

I wonder if the GOP gave him $999 to vanish and continue his book tour?.

Recall that earlier the GOP even let him get away with the charges from the 2/3? White ladies for at least a month and they never opened their mouth about it. That was odd but they didn't care because they had to keep using him at that time, again IMO.

CLARENCE has been quoted as saying that his TEA BAGGER wife ( who happens to be White) ~ recall that the GOP has not to my knowledge said a word about him having a White Wife. Funny how that doesn't bother the GOP but Trayvon is not on their radar at all for sympathy .

I read a quote somewhere that he said something like , " I believe anything that my Wife believes."

Yet, they let Thomas stay on the Bench and they don't say a word.
Why -- because they need him like crazy to fight OBAMA and the "Democrat" Party, he is in their pockets!

By the way, our community never believed that she did those things.did any from all I've ever heard she is a lovely person. But, even with all that baggage he was holding, they STILL put him on the Supreme Court.

Now we have this ALLEN idiot ~ I have never even heard of him. He is nice looking but they must have paid him big money to make that statement.
He is a finished fool and I pray that he is FINISHED. Just watch ~ they will continue to use him until they use him up!

Hope I didn't offend anyone but this is how I feel about these clowns.