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Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:56 PM Apr 2012

Gov. Christie: Nation turning into people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check

Source: NJ.com

NEW YORK — Gov. Chris Christie said the country is becoming a "paternalistic entitlement society" this morning in a speech at a conservative conference headed by former President George W. Bush.

Addressing Bush and other national Republicans, Christie said he hasn't seen a less optimistic period in the country in his lifetime.

"Government's telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we'll take care of you," he said at a theater at the New York Historical Society. "We're turning into a paternalistic entitlement society. That will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally."

"We'll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check," Christie said.

Read more: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/gov_christie_nation_is_becomin.html



The Country-Club, Checkered-Pants Republicans are out in full-force this year.
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Gov. Christie: Nation turning into people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check (Original Post) Daniel537 Apr 2012 OP
He looks like he's sitting on his ass, waiting for a pizza. Fuddnik Apr 2012 #1
And him and his family all living off the government, too. Paternalism and patronage in one package. freshwest Apr 2012 #3
+1 lsewpershad Apr 2012 #30
diddo...and maybe a carton of ice cream.. movonne Apr 2012 #19
It would have to be a big fat pizza goclark Apr 2012 #24
So, he's running for Vice President! nanabugg Apr 2012 #38
! XanaDUer Apr 2012 #44
further rockingirl Apr 2012 #50
Is this what we've come to at DU...attacks on physical appearance? n/t SylviaD Apr 2012 #59
Thank you. MountainMama Apr 2012 #75
I see your point. Really I do. Brigid Apr 2012 #77
He's gonna order some cheesy bread, wings and a 2 litter bottle of pop Tabasco_Dave Apr 2012 #63
he probably has a pizza parlor shoved up his butt to save time RedCloud Apr 2012 #74
LOL Carolina Apr 2012 #78
Just one pizza? jaded_old_cynic Apr 2012 #83
sorry, but have to say it. Him accusing other people of sitting on the couch!?? WI_DEM Apr 2012 #2
That was my first thought. Also forgot who's paying for his family's elite lifestyle... freshwest Apr 2012 #6
Looking in the mirror was he? guitar man Apr 2012 #4
I'd like to see the film clip or memo EC Apr 2012 #5
here's why-he's trying to deflect attention see below posted by prosense earlier leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #7
OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN"T BE THROWING STONES WHEN HE IS IN THE BIGGEST GLASS Justice wanted Apr 2012 #8
He is talking to the wrong party. He and his fellow republicans are praying we southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #9
Ummmmm, who's signing your checks bro? harun Apr 2012 #10
Is he talking about Social Security pensioners? Kolesar Apr 2012 #11
Yup, I am one of those social security pensioners RebelOne Apr 2012 #36
I don't just sit on the couch waiting for my SS check...I get up once in awhile & let the dog out. Auntie Bush Apr 2012 #46
Yep, he's an oaf, but... BB_Troll Apr 2012 #12
A much better counter point ! SamG Apr 2012 #15
Indeed it is. But the wingnuts don't care. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #17
I see where he's throwing his weight around again bluestateguy Apr 2012 #13
And Christie Complains About People Sitting On The Couch? DallasNE Apr 2012 #39
Let's see abelenkpe Apr 2012 #14
Don't be so hard on Christie. Auntie Bush Apr 2012 #47
Oh, go stuff your face with doughnuts. closeupready Apr 2012 #16
DUzy right here! DUzy right here! Brigid Apr 2012 #76
It Seems Not Too Many Politicians Are Overworked grilled onions Apr 2012 #18
Ya got a bunch of Corps sitting around waiting on their tax breaks ya mean benld74 Apr 2012 #20
Oh, Fat Boy worked hard for his money? dmosh42 Apr 2012 #21
What about the investor class sitting around the pool waiting for the dividend check? aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2012 #22
Apparently the wingnuts know they've lost the public debate. qb Apr 2012 #23
He is one big piece of meat goclark Apr 2012 #26
You mean hunk of fat! Auntie Bush Apr 2012 #49
the conference is headed by geo. w. bush who also is sitting lumpy Apr 2012 #25
What the fuck is Christie talking about? blackspade Apr 2012 #27
... as opposed to CEO's sitting in an office on Wall St waiting for a gov't check ... Myrina Apr 2012 #28
Everyone I know who is looking for work MUST consider between 5$-10$ LESS per hour. patrice Apr 2012 #29
Separated at birth? dogknob Apr 2012 #31
well, you're sitting on your behind waiting to be handed the Oval Office SemperEadem Apr 2012 #32
he's much to busy stuffin his oval orifice skoalyman Apr 2012 #61
Hey, Christie! Explain to me what TARP is? KansDem Apr 2012 #33
Sez the fat-fuck who wouldn't know the inside of a gym if there were free donuts on offer... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #34
Did Christie Lift This From A Spiro Agnew Speech? DallasNE Apr 2012 #35
I have been calling him the Endomorph Agnew Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #48
I find his characterization of me offensive, I'm not sitting on the couch... olddad56 Apr 2012 #37
touche! Iris Apr 2012 #65
Look who's talking. BlueStater Apr 2012 #40
Hey Christie unionworks Apr 2012 #41
this is a guy that LIED about the tunnel project madrchsod Apr 2012 #42
So do Gov. Christie's government checks arrive monthly or every two weeks? tanyev Apr 2012 #43
Note to the ignorant. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #45
Just like you, Fat Bastard Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #51
What total BS treestar Apr 2012 #52
Last Ditch Efforts ... Rick tried Porn to fire up the base cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #53
OMG Christie - that statement is going to HAUNT you FOREVER.... LynneSin Apr 2012 #54
oh, look: the gang's all here. marasinghe Apr 2012 #55
This from a guy who needs to be driven from his helicopter to his chair name not needed Apr 2012 #56
And he looks like the poster child got root Apr 2012 #57
The couch broke when Christie sat on it nt TomClash Apr 2012 #58
I 2nd that skoalyman Apr 2012 #60
pig-man ought to know.... unkachuck Apr 2012 #62
The newest spin, since they have nothing real to promote. polichick Apr 2012 #64
Oh, please. meeksgeek Apr 2012 #66
When the alternative is "You need to be currently employed before we can hire you" ck4829 Apr 2012 #67
Every senior needs to see these comments. This guy is a threat to social security. sarcasmo Apr 2012 #68
And Christie is first in line. Zoeisright Apr 2012 #69
They'd be working jobs if you and your Repub. buddies hadn't outsourced them to China NickB79 Apr 2012 #70
"Republican governor calls Americans LAZY" Courtesy Flush Apr 2012 #71
He just described himself!!! savalez Apr 2012 #72
kinda of true. I now some people who are milking the okieinpain Apr 2012 #73
And that equals a whole nation of do-nothings? Iris Apr 2012 #80
Paternalistic? Entitlement? Thor_MN Apr 2012 #79
He's a runner isn't he? CreekDog Apr 2012 #81
Gee. As a disabled person, I guess I should feel like shit. n/t Akoto Apr 2012 #82
Says the man who can't even see, much less reach his own bootstraps lunatica Apr 2012 #84
Of course, it's different when he takes the government funded helicopter to his son's game lunatica Apr 2012 #85
What is it about conservatives/regressives that make them spout this nonsense? TransitJohn Apr 2012 #86

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. And him and his family all living off the government, too. Paternalism and patronage in one package.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:59 PM
Apr 2012

goclark

(30,404 posts)
24. It would have to be a big fat pizza
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:36 PM
Apr 2012

How many pounds is he carrying around?

He is not FIT ~ the thought of someone that big moving around like a President Obama or even a Mitt Romney is beyond me.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
77. I see your point. Really I do.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:48 PM
Apr 2012

But with his comments, Christie opened the door wide and issued engraved invitations for this.

Tabasco_Dave

(1,259 posts)
63. He's gonna order some cheesy bread, wings and a 2 litter bottle of pop
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:42 PM
Apr 2012

with that pizza and some Tums. A little later he will

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
78. LOL
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:54 PM
Apr 2012

I thought the same thing. The image of that lardass was the first thing that came to mind!

Waiting for his pizza and his next GOV'T check!

jaded_old_cynic

(190 posts)
83. Just one pizza?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:29 PM
Apr 2012

I would expect he's waiting for two pizzas, a bucket of hot wings AND some cheesy bread sticks. Hopefully later he'll be eating his own heart out. I really can't stand that man. I'd call him a douche, but douches can serve a useful purpose.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
2. sorry, but have to say it. Him accusing other people of sitting on the couch!??
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:58 PM
Apr 2012

if ever anybody needed to get some exercise (other than flapping his big mouth) it's christie.

EC

(12,287 posts)
5. I'd like to see the film clip or memo
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:00 PM
Apr 2012

of government saying "Government's telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we'll take care of you," [i/]


 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
7. here's why-he's trying to deflect attention see below posted by prosense earlier
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:00 PM
Apr 2012

posted by prosense earlier

Christie's problems worsen in New Jersey

By Steve Benen

April is proving to be an unusually unkind month for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

First, Newark's Star-Ledger ran a lengthy, detailed report documenting the extent to which the governor's legislative proposals, executive orders, and agency rules were written, at times word for word, by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a shadowy far-right group that seeks to impose a conservative agenda in state legislatures.

Then, the New York Times helped shine a light on Christie's corporate welfare practices, in which the governor is handing out lucrative tax credits to preferred in-state corporations.

Today's revelations, meanwhile, may be the most controversial to date.


Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey exaggerated when he declared that unforeseen costs to the state were forcing him to cancel the new train tunnel planned to relieve congested routes across the Hudson River, according to a long-awaited report by independent Congressional investigators.

The report by the Government Accountability Office, to be released this week, found that while Mr. Christie said that state transportation officials had revised cost estimates for the tunnel to at least $11 billion and potentially more than $14 billion, the range of estimates had in fact remained unchanged in the two years before he announced in 2010 that he was shutting down the project. And state transportation officials, the report says, had said the cost would be no more than $10 billion.

Mr. Christie also misstated New Jersey's share of the costs: he said the state would pay 70 percent of the project; the report found that New Jersey was paying 14.4 percent. And while the governor said that an agreement with the federal government would require the state to pay all cost overruns, the report found that there was no final agreement, and that the federal government had made several offers to share those costs.

Even at the time, Christie's decision on this project in 2010 was hard to understand. Conservatives, who've become increasingly hostile towards American infrastructure improvements, cheered the move, but from a substantive perspective, the governor's decision was fairly characterized as "destructive and incredibly foolish."

But this new report casts that decision in an even more damaging light. The Government Accountability Office is a non-partisan research/audit arm of Congress, and it's reporting this week that Christie's rationale for his strange decision wasn't even true. It was a mistake to scrap a major public works project during a weak economy; it was a bigger mistake to explain the move with dishonest claims.

Also note, this didn't just hurt New Jersey -- the project was intended to alleviate congestion between Boston and Washington, D.C.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
8. OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN"T BE THROWING STONES WHEN HE IS IN THE BIGGEST GLASS
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:01 PM
Apr 2012

HOUSE!!! And yes One fat person can call out another fat person for being stupid.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
9. He is talking to the wrong party. He and his fellow republicans are praying we
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:03 PM
Apr 2012

stay in the dumps. About welfare all you have to look at is corporate welfare and the rich getting the hugh tax break. I hope people will not follow these idiots. Because if it was up to the republicans they WILL take all the social net away from all of us and give it to the rich. All the new deal that the democrats brought us will disappear because baggers are blaming the wrong people.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
11. Is he talking about Social Security pensioners?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:05 PM
Apr 2012

What other large group of the population regularly receives "government checks"?
I hope SS pensioners remember his comments when they vote.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
36. Yup, I am one of those social security pensioners
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:34 PM
Apr 2012

sitting on the couch waiting for my check. And believe me, I will be voting for Obama.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
46. I don't just sit on the couch waiting for my SS check...I get up once in awhile & let the dog out.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:31 PM
Apr 2012

But, I'm old and retired! What does Christy want us to do? Go mow our neighbors lawn for a for a few bucks or maybe wait on tables in their scooters?

BB_Troll

(65 posts)
12. Yep, he's an oaf, but...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:05 PM
Apr 2012

What's the counter-point to his argument? Aren't we getting stronger as a country by helping people out during this time?

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
17. Indeed it is. But the wingnuts don't care.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:15 PM
Apr 2012

They would much rather prefer mass starvation than having to pay one nickel in taxes to feed or provide health care for a poor family.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
39. And Christie Complains About People Sitting On The Couch?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:10 PM
Apr 2012

He has a lot of room to talk --- not! This coming from a guy that can't walk 100 yards from his helicopter to the bleachers at his son's baseball game so he had to use a government limo for those 100 yards.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
14. Let's see
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
Apr 2012

We have an aging society where boomers are beginning to retire and a struggling global economy where jobs are scarce. This naturally leads to more and more people needing to rely on social security, medicaid, unemployment and food stamps. If republicans like Christie want to reduce the number of people relying on such programs they need to get serious about doing more to encourage job growth, to keep good paying jobs in the US, to make sure employers provide a living wage and health care benefits so that families do not have to turn to government programs. Instead it seems their stance is to cut programs to those in need during their darkest hour, to abandon the minimum wage and allow corporations to continue to outsource and not provide health care benefits. And further to demonize those in need by calling them lazy free loaders. This is why republicans appear as cruel lunatics to anyone with even half a brain.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
47. Don't be so hard on Christie.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:37 PM
Apr 2012

He probably only has half a brain to work with because the other half of his skull is filled with juicy fat. I guess that would make him a fat head.

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
18. It Seems Not Too Many Politicians Are Overworked
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:19 PM
Apr 2012

Years ago I watched C-Span and I would see someone speaking out on a topic and the "audience" was sleeping,chewing the fat with their pals,playing games on their laptop etc. They hardly put it a typical 40 hour plus work week,nothing physical. I would like to see Christie(among others) do what many have to do working minimum wage. You see them doing yard work,laying down patio bricks,working check outs. They wouldn't have to get this so called handout if business would cough up more then minimum wage.
I would like to see Christie and company work for such paltry wages and NOT get a bit of help from the gov't.
As for the dreaming,striving bit today's workers have their share of battle scars. They can strive all they want but if a company decides to go the cheaper route,fire them and hire cheaper they will do it. Just doing well at your job does not guarantee you a job today. Striving also seems to often be a waste of time when you see your jobs flying overseas. The only jobs that stay here are THEIRS and even when they lose one election they climb right back in. They know what it's like out there in the real world and they don't want to deal with it. What with their easy hours,perks,benefits what isn't there to like? So until he walks a mile in the common laborers shoes he should just shut up.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
22. What about the investor class sitting around the pool waiting for the dividend check?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:31 PM
Apr 2012

That's a phrase often used by Thom Hartmann to describe the elite in America who are no longer working like industrialists used to work by taking risks and making things, but only want to make money with money.

qb

(5,924 posts)
23. Apparently the wingnuts know they've lost the public debate.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:31 PM
Apr 2012

Now all they can do is throw red meat to their base, damn the consequences!

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
25. the conference is headed by geo. w. bush who also is sitting
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:37 PM
Apr 2012

around waiting for his government retirement check. the hypocricy is alarming.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
27. What the fuck is Christie talking about?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:42 PM
Apr 2012

It is his class that waits for its next government check.
The rest of us are staggering along without much help or recourse from the government.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
28. ... as opposed to CEO's sitting in an office on Wall St waiting for a gov't check ...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:45 PM
Apr 2012

Jus' sayin, there, Chris ...

patrice

(47,992 posts)
29. Everyone I know who is looking for work MUST consider between 5$-10$ LESS per hour.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 01:52 PM
Apr 2012

What kinds of wage cuts has the governor experienced recently?

Is he making half of what he was making 10 years ago???

What would it take to make the governor say, "Fuck this shit!"

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
32. well, you're sitting on your behind waiting to be handed the Oval Office
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:01 PM
Apr 2012

it takes one to know one, dude.

Government isn't telling anyone anything remotely like this fantasy of christie's. But what are the repukes telling people who desperately want to get back to work? Fuck you if you starve, the jobs are going over seas so they can be paid $2/hr for 75 hours of work/week and if they or their families get sick, then die and die quickly because we don't want to have to reach into our profit margins to have to offer you a living wage and health care in exchange for you showing up every day and working for us.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
33. Hey, Christie! Explain to me what TARP is?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:09 PM
Apr 2012
...(rich) people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check

That's what I thought.

[font size="1"]Adjective mine...
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
34. Sez the fat-fuck who wouldn't know the inside of a gym if there were free donuts on offer...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:18 PM
Apr 2012

...fyi I am a fat-fuck myself so spare me the poutrage...

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
35. Did Christie Lift This From A Spiro Agnew Speech?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:30 PM
Apr 2012

It so reminds me of Spiro Agnew. With George W. Bush keynoting the conference one has to wonder if this was Christie auditioning for Vice President.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
37. I find his characterization of me offensive, I'm not sitting on the couch...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:40 PM
Apr 2012

I'm sitting in front of my computer. In fact, I was just checking to make sure that my Social Security check was directly deposited in my account.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
40. Look who's talking.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:11 PM
Apr 2012

From the looks of this guy, it wouldn't appear his job involves moving his body too much.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
42. this is a guy that LIED about the tunnel project
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:34 PM
Apr 2012

the LIE that will cost hundreds of billions of dollars in the future.

both chrissy and scotty should be proud of the hundreds of billions they decided to "spend" well into our children and grand childrens future.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
53. Last Ditch Efforts ... Rick tried Porn to fire up the base
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:44 PM
Apr 2012

that didn't work, so enter Chris with the old Entitlement Scheme. Wonder what Newt's Swan Song will be?

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
54. OMG Christie - that statement is going to HAUNT you FOREVER....
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:59 PM
Apr 2012

I hope you think of your words next paycheck you get from the NJ Government.

And the guy wonders why Bruce Springsteen won't return his calls in regards to the concert Christie is bugging Bruce to do in Atlantic City on Labor Day.

marasinghe

(1,253 posts)
55. oh, look: the gang's all here.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 08:02 PM
Apr 2012
".... Christie and Bush kicked off a day-long conference .... Speakers throughout the day include Steve Forbes, Congressman Paul Ryan, Karl Rove and several governors. In addition to Bush, Henry Kissinger was in the audience for Christie's 30-minute speech ...."


fucking gang that couldn't shoot straight in a toilet, much less a war; bunch of armchair sadists & sociopaths.

of course, if it was a food fight, Karl & Chris would be leading the charge of the tight-ass brigade, with Kiss' the Killer coaching this flock of has-been carrion-eaters.
 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
62. pig-man ought to know....
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:35 PM
Apr 2012

"We'll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check,"

....as opposed to sitting in a comfy chair in the governors' mansion waiting for your next government check?

....you are one slimy fuckin' republican....you pukes fucked-up the economy, sent our good-paying jobs to Mexico and China, looted our treasury with tax-breaks and wars, corrupted our government, and when the American people need a helping hand to survive your economic mess, you piss and moan about it....

....the day is coming soon when fascist pricks like you will be strung-up by their pudgy thumbs....

meeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
66. Oh, please.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:53 PM
Apr 2012

I'm not waiting on a government handout. I'm looking for my next temporary job paying something less than $10 an hour. Actually I'm really looking for a job paying me what I made five years ago, before I decided to sit out the economic crisis in graduate school. Two years, I thought, was probably enough time for it to blow over, and there I would be, Master's Degree in hand... Now, three years after graduation, it's been a string of temporary, seasonal, part-time jobs and freelance gigs, none of which has paid more than about 50% of the hourly rate I got before the crisis began. For a variety of reasons relating to being a student and then my temporary employment situation, I'm not entitled to one cent of unemployment coverage in my state.

I don't even own a couch, got it? But I bet you have a nice, big, comfy couch, Mr. Christie. Maybe several.

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
67. When the alternative is "You need to be currently employed before we can hire you"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:12 AM
Apr 2012

What do you think people are going to do?

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
70. They'd be working jobs if you and your Repub. buddies hadn't outsourced them to China
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:02 PM
Apr 2012

Thanks a lot, a-hole.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
79. Paternalistic? Entitlement?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:39 PM
Apr 2012

Chris, are you ragging on your peeps or are you projecting?

It;s the GOP that is conducting the war on women and giving away the country to the rich and the "corporate" type "people".

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
85. Of course, it's different when he takes the government funded helicopter to his son's game
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:54 AM
Apr 2012

For him it's downright depressing to be reduced to such a thing.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
86. What is it about conservatives/regressives that make them spout this nonsense?
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:02 AM
Apr 2012

Say 5%-8% of people on assistance are gaming the system, which might be high. Isn't it better to help 90%+ of people who really need it?

I hear this same talking point over and over and over and over.....it really pisses me off.

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