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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:15 AM

Star Member Cooley Hurd (20,689 posts)

Two arrested in north Tulsa shootings that claimed three lives

Source: Tulsa World

By Staff Reports
Published: 4/8/2012 4:37 AM
Last Modified: 4/8/2012 4:51 AM



Two men have been arrested in the Friday morning shootings that left three dead and two injured in north Tulsa, the Tulsa Police Department announced in a press release early Sunday.


Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, were arrested at 1:47 a.m., almost exactly 48 hours after a series of shootings left three people dead and two hospitalized.

More details about the suspects were not immediately available.

Police indicated they would be charged with three counts of murder and two counts of shooting with intent to kill.

The victims were identified as Dannaer Fields, 49, Bobby Clark, 54 and William Allen, 31. They died in north Tulsa early Friday after being shot in separate incidents. Two others were shot and have been hospitalized.

The arrests came less than 12 hours after authorities formed a task force called Operation Random Shooter, which consisted of 30 investigators with several local and state agencies working to solve the shooting spree, Tulsa Police Chief Chuck Jordan said during a Saturday afternoon press conference

Read more: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=297&articleid=20120408_297_0_Tomnhv525414

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Reply Two arrested in north Tulsa shootings that claimed three lives (Original post)
 Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 OP
LineReply 2 arrested in connection with deadly Tulsa, Okla., shooting spree
 Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #1
LineReply Glad they found them quickly, before more lives were lost
 quaker bill Apr 2012 #2
LineReply Great job...my hat is off to the Tulsa Police task force
 Liber-AL Apr 2012 #3
LineReply Now hopefully the facts will come to light explaining all this. Justice should be served as the
 Justice wanted Apr 2012 #4
LineLineReply Article suggests a rival hatred angle...
 brooklynite Apr 2012 #6
LineReply I read they got a Crimestoppers tip
 Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #5
LineReply Alvin looks like a real 'tough' guy
 blitzburgh55 Apr 2012 #7
LineLineReply In this article the man who killed his dad was sentenced to 6 years in prison
 riverbendviewgal Apr 2012 #10
LineLineLineNew Reply That part of that article caught my eye as well.
 Raine1967 Apr 2012 #18
LineReply England's facebook page.
 rgbecker Apr 2012 #8
LineLineNew Reply I wonder how many of his Facebook friends who posted comments
 SamG Apr 2012 #19
LineReply Glad this was resolved
 mactime Apr 2012 #9
LineLineReply WTF?
 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #11
LineLineLineReply I wish there were a way to rec your post. You completely and
 coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #12
LineLineLineReply Well said. n/t
 Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #13
LineLineLineNew Reply Hear Hear, Sir
 The Magistrate Apr 2012 #15
LineLineLineNew Reply You missunderstood
 mactime Apr 2012 #17
LineLineLineNew Reply +1
 joshcryer Apr 2012 #22
LineReply Facebook and News Info
 LarryNM Apr 2012 #14
LineLineNew Reply The only one I feel bad for is a) the victims and their families and b) the killer's baby sone
 rainbow4321 Apr 2012 #16
LineLineNew Reply I guess the killer thought
 Liber-AL Apr 2012 #21
LineNew Reply So who has Mr. Watts infant baby at this time?
 SamG Apr 2012 #20
LineLineNew Reply His (Jake England's) FB has "disappeared" now...
 rainbow4321 Apr 2012 #23
LineNew Reply Glad they got someone into custody quickly
 rl6214 Apr 2012 #24

Response to Cooley Hurd (Original post)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:32 AM

Star Member Judi Lynn (77,643 posts)

1. 2 arrested in connection with deadly Tulsa, Okla., shooting spree

2 arrested in connection with deadly Tulsa, Okla., shooting spree
By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

Updated at 6:11 a.m. ET: TULSA, Okla. -- Two men were arrested early Sunday in connection with a Good Friday shooting spree in Tulsa's predominantly black north side that left three people dead and two others wounded.

Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, will be charged with three counts of murder and two counts of shooting with intent to kill, the Tulsa Police Department said. Police identified both suspects as white males.

They were arrested at 1:47 a.m. local time, authorities said.

"Our sympathy goes out to the families of the victims and we hope that our efforts can bring some resolution and closure to these heinous acts," the Tulsa Police Department said in a statement.

More:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/08/11081559-2-arrested-in-connection-with-deadly-tulsa-okla-shooting-spree&lite

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:28 AM

quaker bill (7,130 posts)

2. Glad they found them quickly, before more lives were lost

K&R

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 08:31 AM

Liber-AL (71 posts)

3. Great job...my hat is off to the Tulsa Police task force

 

At least the suspects were arrested...and the wheels of justice will be set in motion if the arrestees are the ones who did it!

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 08:35 AM

Justice wanted (2,657 posts)

4. Now hopefully the facts will come to light explaining all this. Justice should be served as the

founders expected it to.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:24 AM

Star Member brooklynite (12,877 posts)

6. Article suggests a rival hatred angle...

Jake England makes several references to the two-year anniversary of his father’s death on his Facebook page, including a post 3:04 p.m. Thursday that says, “Today is two years that my dad has been gone shot by a f------ n----- it's hard not to go off between that and sheran I'm gone in the head.”

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=297&articleid=20120408_297_0_Tomnhv525414

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:07 AM

Yo_Mama (3,680 posts)

5. I read they got a Crimestoppers tip

Congrats to whoever was alert enough to tip the cops off.

That's a huge relief.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:03 AM

Star Member riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)

10. In this article the man who killed his dad was sentenced to 6 years in prison

His charge was pointing a gun....I think he got a light sentence because the gun laws are more lenient in Oklahoma and that he was the one attacked by the father, Carl England, who went out with his daughter's boyfriend to seek and hurt him.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:59 PM

Raine1967 (3,141 posts)

18. That part of that article caught my eye as well.

In this instance the man who went to jail for killing was actually defending himself.

What a clusterfluck.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:44 PM

SamG (535 posts)

19. I wonder how many of his Facebook friends who posted comments

 

in the past few months will want their names and their own Facebook pages to remain up.

Yeah, Alvin ain't going to be seeing his Facebook page anytime soon, maybe not for the rest of his life.

Do they have the death penalty in OK for killing 3 and injuring 2 others?

40 years in prison, at least, but I doubt OK is very "friendly" to murderers.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:39 AM

mactime (202 posts)

9. Glad this was resolved

 

There are no winners in this case. When I first heard about this I thought it would be an act of revenge for the rape and murder of the 85-year-old Nancy Strait earlier this year.
I do feel bad for all involved, except for Alvin Watts. At his age he might have used his influence to push the 19 year old England to take these actions.

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Response to mactime (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:18 AM

Star Member alcibiades_mystery (28,423 posts)

11. WTF?

First of all, young Mr. England is a vicious murderer. His father, moreover, seems to have been justifiably killed while assaulting a man with a weapon, in a classic "stand your ground" case.

As for "revenge" for a rape and murder, what the hell are you talking about? Would you say the same if a black man went around shooting white men in Seattle as revenge for the Green River Killer? Your whole post makes no sense.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:58 AM

coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)

12. I wish there were a way to rec your post. You completely and

 

Last edited Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:59 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

totally repudiate and refute everything (and succintly too, I might add) the poster you were responding to put forward, except for his feeling 'bad'. He's entitled to his feelings, of course, but his thoughts are so specious as to merit the drubbing you rightfully served up.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 12:05 PM

Star Member Cali_Democrat (14,689 posts)

13. Well said. n/t

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 12:15 PM

Star Member The Magistrate (80,588 posts)

15. Hear Hear, Sir

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:34 PM

mactime (202 posts)

17. You missunderstood

 

From the beginning I thought this might be a case of 'revenge' killings. I was not attempting to justify the murders.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:43 PM

joshcryer (39,760 posts)

22. +1

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 12:06 PM

LarryNM (264 posts)

14. Facebook and News Info

Seem to paint a picture of hate, selfishness and despair leading to a gang mentality of Us Against Them and to hell with it all.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:19 PM

Star Member rainbow4321 (9,192 posts)

16. The only one I feel bad for is a) the victims and their families and b) the killer's baby sone

Mother apparently died in January, now his father will most likely get the DP or be in jail for life. Going by his FB, the guy's friends had been seeing him lose it over the last week or so. Geez, looks like the day after the killings he wrote "going to work to get my mind off things" and then he had to "lay some tile in the kitchen to keep the cash flowing". Really? You murder 3, injure 2 and going to work will clear your head of all that??


On the second guy: He has been throwing a FB published fit because his baby mama would not let him see his kid. Sound judgement call on her part, I'd say at this point...he then goes on to complain that his guy friend hooked up with his baby mama and that in doing that the friend "crossed the line" and violated "a code".

I felt the need to take a shower after reading their FB's.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:19 PM

Liber-AL (71 posts)

21. I guess the killer thought

 

Jefferson should have just let England Sr. beat him to death with a stick all the while singing kume by ya!
Well, he can now join his father in hell... murdering scumbag.

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:46 PM

SamG (535 posts)

20. So who has Mr. Watts infant baby at this time?

 

Just wondering, when they went out shooting in the pickup truck, did they have the infant baby with them?

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Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:13 PM

Star Member rainbow4321 (9,192 posts)

23. His (Jake England's) FB has "disappeared" now...

but when it was still there, his sister had posted on it a few days ago...so maybe she has the baby (the mother killed herself in January, so he was a single father)? Unless CPS stepped in to keep the baby until everything can be sorted out on who the baby will go live with. No telling. But, yeah, for being a single parent he sure seemed to have alot of time on his hands...the killing spree, being found by police "out walking to someone else's place" when the 2 were arrested (I bet they were **walking**---wonder where they ditched the white pickup?).
Watts' FB is still there but he was the one who said his baby mama wouldn't let him see their child.
I imagine both of their backstories will come out this week now that they have been arrested. Their FB pages alone were/are creepy.

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Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:19 AM

Star Member rl6214 (7,434 posts)

24. Glad they got someone into custody quickly

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