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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:30 AM Sep 2014

Britain won't join air strikes in Syria: foreign secretary

Source: AFP

Berlin (AFP) - Britain won't join the United States in air strikes against Islamic State jihadist fighters in Syria, Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said Thursday, without ruling out similar action in Iraq.

"Let me be clear Britain will not be taking part in any air strikes in Syria," he said in Berlin.

"We've already had that discussion in our parliament last year and we won't be revisiting that position."

Regarding the wider US military campaign against IS militants across the area they have captured in Syria and Iraq, he said that "we are clear that we will make a contribution".

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/britain-wont-join-air-strikes-syria-foreign-secretary-134754332.html

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Britain won't join air strikes in Syria: foreign secretary (Original Post) jakeXT Sep 2014 OP
And the Germans. nt bemildred Sep 2014 #1
Freedom shepherds! KamaAina Sep 2014 #17
Nice dog. nt bemildred Sep 2014 #21
Tha's two atreides1 Sep 2014 #2
Turkey?! Looks like we're all having freedom for Thanksgiving! KamaAina Sep 2014 #18
Brussel Sprouts? DocMac Sep 2014 #20
They are ann--- Sep 2014 #3
Out of curiosity, what would be an acceptable military action? brooklynite Sep 2014 #4
Obama said ISIS was "just a JV team". former9thward Sep 2014 #6
Well we can bomb them in Syria but we know that air strikes alone cannot do the job. totodeinhere Sep 2014 #9
So let's stay out. former9thward Sep 2014 #12
I agree. That's what my comment was meant to imply. But I fear that totodeinhere Sep 2014 #13
As it has for 13 years now. former9thward Sep 2014 #14
None ann--- Sep 2014 #7
Either/or posts Feral Child Sep 2014 #15
Until I listened to MSNBC last night I wanted us to stay out of it and let the Arab nations handle jwirr Sep 2014 #10
I would say taking out the oil fields that provide them with revenue KamaAina Sep 2014 #23
So the only two options are military or isolation. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #25
Not what I said... brooklynite Sep 2014 #31
There was much we didn't realize about Obama when we voted for him '08 villager Sep 2014 #26
Great decision by the British. Attacking Syria is the dumbest ballyhoo Sep 2014 #5
This^ eom littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #8
There's no need for them to do so, anyway. Our targets will be fairly limited, we don't TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #11
Freedom muffins! KamaAina Sep 2014 #16
Air strikes in Syria Feral Child Sep 2014 #19
Is the US the leader of the stupid sect? lark Sep 2014 #22
Don't they realize what Fox News will say? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #24
Is anyone in NATO actively joining the war? Bragi Sep 2014 #27
I can hear it now... SummerSnow Sep 2014 #28
Colin Firth movies banned! Benedict Cumberbatch movies banned! BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #33
Britain says they have not taken Syrian air strikes off the table karynnj Sep 2014 #29
Shhh, you're interrupting their daily Obamasux!!11 orgasm. nt tridim Sep 2014 #30
Its called mission creep jamzrockz Sep 2014 #32

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
2. Tha's two
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:35 AM
Sep 2014

Turkey said no attacks on Syria from their territory, and now the UK will not join air strikes on Syria!




 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
3. They are
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:36 AM
Sep 2014

smart. We are asking for trouble. Didn't realize Obama was such a hawk when I voted for him back in 2008.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
4. Out of curiosity, what would be an acceptable military action?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:46 AM
Sep 2014

Or are you taking a totally isolationist position?

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
9. Well we can bomb them in Syria but we know that air strikes alone cannot do the job.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

And we will risk having our jets fired at by Assad's surface to air missiles.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
7. None
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

We can't afford another war - period. in my view. I'm not an isolationist, but I think we have to pick our battles and this doesn't seem like one we can afford.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. Until I listened to MSNBC last night I wanted us to stay out of it and let the Arab nations handle
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:09 PM
Sep 2014

the problem. I still think that is the best way. However I respect Richard Engel and he was very discouraging about this whole adventure. Said there are no real governments left in Iraq or Syria for us to work with.

Truth no one knows how to handle this area now that bush/cheney have totally upset the whole area. I see a lot of criticism of the action but very little solutions. I feel very sorry of our president. This is the worst problem he has inherited from the raygunites because we better understand how to fix the other problems.

Maybe we should send them a new ruler? Cheney/busie?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
23. I would say taking out the oil fields that provide them with revenue
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:38 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025447150#post2

of course, the Saudis, Qataris, etc. could just step up their funding of ISIL.

edit: Not to mention that the oil companies would go ballistic.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
31. Not what I said...
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 03:57 PM
Sep 2014

...I asked the poster what his opinion was, and apparently isolation (as I expected) was the only acceptable position.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
26. There was much we didn't realize about Obama when we voted for him '08
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:00 PM
Sep 2014

But his first round of cabinet choices made things pretty instantly clear.

And they keep getting "clearer."

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
5. Great decision by the British. Attacking Syria is the dumbest
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:55 AM
Sep 2014

thing I have ever heard Obama say. Absolutely senseless. Alfred Nobel is rolling in his grave.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
11. There's no need for them to do so, anyway. Our targets will be fairly limited, we don't
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:09 PM
Sep 2014

have ground helpers there.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
19. Air strikes in Syria
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:46 PM
Sep 2014

are a provocation to Iran, they have a mutual protection pact. And, China is involved in the same way.

The hawks have been pushing for this all along.

I don't know that China and Iran will honor their commitment, but I do remember that France and Russia honored theirs to Serbia in 1914. Germany honored their pact with Austro-Hungary, Britain picked a side, as did Italy, Turkey, and Romania.

Oh, and all their colonies and allies, JIC I missed someone.

Are we still going to engage in this suicidal game?

We "won" in WWI because we stayed out till the last minute. Pretty much the same in WWII. This time we're going to start it. Add to that the fact that we no longer have the industry or manufacturing resources we had last century.

China. Huge manufacturing capacity, energy aplenty from their allies. Millions of potential soldiers.

The British apparently see this, as does Germany. Hopefully this will dissuade our folly.




lark

(23,061 posts)
22. Is the US the leader of the stupid sect?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:09 PM
Sep 2014

It's definitely the leader in killing other people and having a few people (Cheney, Bush Jr. and Sr., oil companies, weapons mfg.s) make a ton of money off these acts. Also the leader in doing stupid things to ensure war continues - ala funding Syrian rebels. ISIS started out being Syrian rebels and look how well that bet turned out for us!

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
27. Is anyone in NATO actively joining the war?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:05 PM
Sep 2014

The coalition of the willing may need a smaller meeting room than expected.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
28. I can hear it now...
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:08 PM
Sep 2014

English muffins are now freedom muffins
The following names will be banned in America...Phillip, Harry, Kate,Elizabeth...
James Bond will be replaced by Inspector Gadget
London Fog coats will no longer be allowed

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
29. Britain says they have not taken Syrian air strikes off the table
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:17 PM
Sep 2014

They pointed out that what Parliament rejected was attacks against Assad -- Obama is speaking of attacks against ISIS. Two very different things.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29163711

I think Hammond replaces Hague just a month or two ago -- it looks like the UK is trying to deny what he said without hurting his credibility.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
32. Its called mission creep
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:02 PM
Sep 2014

remember how airstrikes to create no fly zones quickly became assassination attempts on Gaddafi and his family? I think one of his sons and grandchildren were killed in one of the NATO attacks on Libya's so called air force station.

If you believe this will not eventually lead to attacks on Syrian forces, then I have a bridge in Texas I want to sell you

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