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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:48 PM Sep 2014

Dad in hot-car death case indicted on murder, child cruelty charges

Source: L.A. Times

Justin Ross Harris, a Georgia man accused of intentionally leaving his toddler in a hot car for seven hours in June and sexting with multiple women as the boy died, was indicted Thursday on eight charges, including murder and child cruelty..

Harris faces five charges directly related to 22-month-old Cooper’s death: one count of malice murder, two of felony murder and two of cruelty to children. The Cobb County grand jury indicted a 33-year-old father accused of leaving his son in a hot car on eight criminal charges.

He also faces three charges related to providing sexual pictures and descriptions to a girl younger than 18 and requesting photos of her genitals, according to the indictment by a Cobb County grand jury: two counts of disseminating harmful material to minors and one count of attempting to sexually exploit children.

Harris left work at 4:15 p.m. -- apparently to go watch "22 Jump Street" with friends -- and, while driving to the theater, brought his car to a screeching halt near a strip mall and pulled his son's body out of the car, apparently in distress after discovering what he'd done. But during a court hearing in July, police said that wasn't the first time Harris had gone back to his car since he arrived at work. Police said surveillance video showed that after he got a ride to lunch with some friends, Harris went back around midday to put light bulbs inside the car, where his son was strapped into a rear-facing car seat.


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-hot-car-murder-justin-ross-harris-20140904-story.html

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Dad in hot-car death case indicted on murder, child cruelty charges (Original Post) Blue_Tires Sep 2014 OP
Justice will be served ann--- Sep 2014 #1
Prison for life. Aristus Sep 2014 #6
I've never been one to support 'prison justice' Earth_First Sep 2014 #8
I didn't say I supported it. Just that it's a fact of prison life. Aristus Sep 2014 #9
Oh he likes 22 Jumpstreet, cop movies hu? SummerSnow Sep 2014 #2
wasn't the mother implicated in this plot? secondwind Sep 2014 #3
somethings weird with her. I'm sure the justice system is still looking into it. Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #4
According to local news reports, no charges are filed against her. n/t RebelOne Sep 2014 #10
She didn't want to talk to the cops at first ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #14
Good n/t Feral Child Sep 2014 #5
The reason I don't buy his argument VA_Jill Sep 2014 #7
Trying to decide who I hate more. This guy or the ISIS beheader (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #11
Yeah shenmue Sep 2014 #13
I'm going with this guy jmowreader Sep 2014 #16
I'm not sure what to think about this case neohippie Sep 2014 #12
Of course all the comments in that story Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #18
You know, with "dozens" of deaths in the U.S. I wonder if these instances of car suffocation are new phylny Sep 2014 #15
That, and now children ride backwards jmowreader Sep 2014 #17
 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
1. Justice will be served
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:56 PM
Sep 2014

only if he is convicted and sent to prison for life. His wife should be indicted, too.

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
6. Prison for life.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:00 PM
Sep 2014

Which likely won't be long. You know how many of the men behind bars are fathers? They don't like child murderers very much...

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
8. I've never been one to support 'prison justice'
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:34 PM
Sep 2014

Neither should you.

The justice system should be able to handle and deliver a verdict with an appropriate sentence without needing further help from inmates following incarceration.

The cruel and unusual circumstances of this case are indeed disturbing...however appropriating the desire for 'prison justice' following sentencing is an act that no good Democrat or Progressive should feel inclined to support.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
2. Oh he likes 22 Jumpstreet, cop movies hu?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:56 PM
Sep 2014

Wonder what he said when he saw the real police coming for him.

Hope his first movie night in jail they'll be showing 22 Jumpstreet

VA_Jill

(9,940 posts)
7. The reason I don't buy his argument
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 06:26 PM
Sep 2014

is that you don't take your kid out to breakfast and then "forget" him 10 minutes later. Nuh-uh. That just does not compute. Nor does going back to the car after arriving at work and not noticing. Sorry, buddy. You lose.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
12. I'm not sure what to think about this case
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 07:04 AM
Sep 2014

I'm beginning to think this is another case of a person being convicted in the media before all of the facts were in...

I know that my opinion isn't popular but everyone who says that it isn't possible to forget things even in a span as short as ten minutes may not be considering that it really is possible. For example I have been so distracted that I drove up to an ATM to get out money one time , withdrew $200, got a phone call while I was doing this, and forgot to pull the $200 out when it popped out of the machine and then drove off, without my cash.

The evidence presented early on with this case is a mountain of circumstance. From what I've read the Police cherry picked the details that they wanted and only released the facts that supported their version of events and suppressed the facts that didn't work, kind of like Bush did with the facts that led us into the war in Iraq

Is this guy a perfect husband and father, far from it, but is he really the monster that he was made out to be, that may not be the case.

It's sad how people rush to judgment these days early on and once they pick a side they only seem to see the arguments that support their opinion. The 24 hour news cycle has killed most chances for the truth to come out because everything is sensationalized and reported as fact before it has really been vetted.

In this case, so far we have really only heard what the Police want you to believe and in this indictment, the defense hasn't had a chance to present it's side of the story.

According to the brother of the suspect the facts reveal a very different version of events than we have all been led to believe and challenge the Police's narrative


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2014/07/21/questions-police-account-child-death-hot-car/fNCwGu2GIj9KZefvm40BBP/story.html

But in his cross-examination, Kilgore suggested that Harris’ usual routine was to drop the boy off at day care, drive to the restaurant and then head straight to work. So bringing Cooper to Chick-fil-A was a departure from an established pattern, Kilgore implied.

Experts say a break in routine is a common reason parents forget that a child is in the car.

Baygents said that reinforces his certainty that his brother made a terrible mistake, not a calculated choice. ‘‘I know Ross. Cooper was his buddy. To see him portrayed as a terrible parent is just not right,’’ he said.

Baygents also addressed Stoddard’s testimony about what happened when Leanna and Ross were put together in the same room after his arrest. Police, listening in on the conversation, heard Leanna ask her husband, ‘‘Did you say too much?’’

But this was not a marital conspiracy, Baygents said. ‘‘It was more along the line of, ‘What’s going on here? Are we in trouble or something?’ They were in a total state of shock. Their child was dead.’’


Now I realize that my opinion may not be vary popular but, this is why we have due process and afford defendants a trial, so that they get a chance to refute the evidence against them and present their side of the story up until now I think too many people have only heard the police's interpretation of it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. Of course all the comments in that story
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:39 PM
Sep 2014

come from the defendant's brother -- Hardly an impartial party...

phylny

(8,367 posts)
15. You know, with "dozens" of deaths in the U.S. I wonder if these instances of car suffocation are new
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 05:49 PM
Sep 2014

because I simply don't recall this happening years and years ago.

Is it more commonplace because 1) more cars have air conditioning, and previously windows might be left down; 2) more kids in daycare instead of at home as two parents work; 3) greater awareness because local news is now national news due to the Internet?

I don't disagree that people aren't seen as "innocent until proven guilty," but I cannot explain away him going to the car to put bulbs in it, either.

Who knows? Poor Cooper.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
17. That, and now children ride backwards
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:23 PM
Sep 2014

I have the sad feeling that more of these deaths than you'd want to admit are not accidental.

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