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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:51 AM Aug 2014

Poll: McConnell leads Grimes by 4 points

Source: The Hill

A new poll shows Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) widening his lead over his Democratic opponent, the second time the Bluegrass Poll has had the Republican ahead.

With just two months away from the midterm election, the poll released Saturday found that McConnell would get 46 percent of likely voters, compared with Grimes’s 42 percent, the Courier Journal reported.

The poll was conducted earlier this week by SurveyUSA on behalf of the Courier-Journal and three other news outlets.

Grimes had led in Bluegrass Polls up until the one a month ago, in which McConnell opened a two-point lead. Saturday’s poll is the third consecutive time McConnell’s chances have improved over Grimes, Kentucky’s secretary of state.




Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/216314-kentucky-poll-puts-mcconnell-4-points-ahead



Good, honest, hard working people. White collar, blue collar, doesn't matter what color shirt you have on. Good, honest, hardworking people of modest means continue to elect these rich COCKSUCKERS who don't give a fuck about them.

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Poll: McConnell leads Grimes by 4 points (Original Post) IDemo Aug 2014 OP
What's in the water in Kentucky? BillZBubb Aug 2014 #1
Coal (quite literally as well). conservaphobe Aug 2014 #2
I do not hold any illusions about Kentucky, however, 4 points is still very doable to overcome. In still_one Aug 2014 #3
I believe IOKIYAR applies completely to such areas IDemo Aug 2014 #4
Actually it's complicated... Finishline42 Aug 2014 #8
Racism and sexism. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #41
Was wondering that also.....that story broke on Friday of a 3 day holiday......might not have been a kennedy Aug 2014 #5
That is my thoughts. I mean the bribery scandal is a significant event still_one Aug 2014 #6
As was his getting caught brown-nosing the Koch Bros on tape MynameisBlarney Aug 2014 #15
I just don't know if the voters care, tho... CTyankee Aug 2014 #23
I Agree mckara Aug 2014 #21
" ... koch brothers secret meeting has had time to absorb into the numbers completely yet?" aggiesal Sep 2014 #39
coal jobs greymattermom Aug 2014 #7
President Obama can't unilaterally shut down a military base, IronGate Aug 2014 #9
This poll is a poll of 657 people which is BS bob4460 Aug 2014 #10
Well Zogby once stated INdemo Aug 2014 #16
This raises another question Reter Aug 2014 #18
With a =/- 4.2% margin of error progressoid Aug 2014 #20
The only numbers fredamae Aug 2014 #11
The critical point... brooklynite Aug 2014 #12
These same people talk onecaliberal Aug 2014 #13
It's The Politics Of Fear DallasNE Aug 2014 #14
Senator NO, aka Senator Know-nothing, says YES to the Koch bros and the 1% judgegblue Aug 2014 #17
electoral-vote take on this poll Hawaii Hiker Aug 2014 #19
Do voters in Kentucky really care about a tape bigdarryl Aug 2014 #25
GOTV nt treestar Aug 2014 #22
This shows what dire straits the Dem party is in Doctor_J Aug 2014 #24
No it shows how traitorous the news media is for protecting McConnell's ass emulatorloo Aug 2014 #27
whatever the reason, we can't pick up a seat Doctor_J Aug 2014 #32
The election isn't over yet. emulatorloo Sep 2014 #40
just one poll. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #26
Posters in this topic trying to find silver lining in this are reminding me of 2012 Rove Dopers_Greed Aug 2014 #28
Yep Cosmocat Aug 2014 #29
It is an uphill battle VirginiaTarheel Sep 2014 #37
It's not the actual Voters who matter, but the Vote "Counters" who matter. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #30
For any Democrat to win The Wizard Aug 2014 #33
A very weak showing for a long time incumbent in a red state 3rdwaydem Aug 2014 #31
Two months is an eon Vine Gatherer Sep 2014 #34
I certainly hope you are right. riversedge Sep 2014 #38
OK negoldie Sep 2014 #35
When I worked for a major polling firm, I would have had to call that a tie. pnwmom Sep 2014 #36

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
1. What's in the water in Kentucky?
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:53 AM
Aug 2014

McConnell is Koch tool. I guess a majority in Kentucky are as well.

still_one

(92,131 posts)
3. I do not hold any illusions about Kentucky, however, 4 points is still very doable to overcome. In
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:56 AM
Aug 2014

addition, I wonder if mcconnell's finance scandal, and his koch brothers secret meeting has had time to absorb into the numbers completely yet?

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
4. I believe IOKIYAR applies completely to such areas
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:59 AM
Aug 2014

It's OK if you're a Republican. Anyone else is a Marxist and wants to steal your guns and bibles.

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
8. Actually it's complicated...
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

Democrats have held the Governor's office for 40 years - with 2 exceptions. But the GOP has the State Senate (won it about 10 years ago) and is threatening to take the House. But to show you the problem, one of the Governors was a Republican growing up in Virginia. Met his wife in college there. She was from a family involved in the thoroughbred horse industry and was told - you register as a Democrat in you want any influence. And he did. Brereton Jones is his name.

We voted both times for Clinton but both times against Obama.

The poster above is correct about coal - big time factor. It beat Chandler (US Rep from the Lexington area - center Left politically) even though there are no coal mines in his district (but a lot of the voters have connections in Eastern KY).

Mitch is losing his marbles. One of the sad things about growing old.



a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
5. Was wondering that also.....that story broke on Friday of a 3 day holiday......might not have been
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:00 AM
Aug 2014

heard by the masses yet. take a poll again on Tuesday, or Wednesday and see what numbers say. JMHO.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
15. As was his getting caught brown-nosing the Koch Bros on tape
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:18 PM
Aug 2014

He basically confirmed what we've known all along.
The Kochs own the GOP. Lock, stock and barrel.

CTyankee

(63,902 posts)
23. I just don't know if the voters care, tho...
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 03:33 PM
Aug 2014

I mean, how does that really affect their lives (in their opinion)? And do we know that they even know who the Koch brothers ARE?

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
39. " ... koch brothers secret meeting has had time to absorb into the numbers completely yet?"
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014

I'm sure it would only increase his lead.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
7. coal jobs
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

Folks are afraid to lose their jobs in coal mining. They don't realize that all of the oil and natural gas coming from fracking and oil shale will kill those jobs anyway. They are voting to shut down the government again. I think Obama should close some of the military bases in Kentucky when that happens. Maybe Ft. Campbell?

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
9. President Obama can't unilaterally shut down a military base,
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

only the Congress can by way of funding and I suspect that Ft. Campbell will never be on the chopping block and to suggest that he do so, is, IMO, stupid, think of all the civilian jobs that would be lost.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. Well Zogby once stated
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:30 PM
Aug 2014

that a poll conducted with less than 1000-1500 people is just a poll to give the media something to report.
CNN Faux and all the other right wing corporate media outlets are just waiting for this kind of poll reporting so they can jump on it and make it sound as if this election in Kentucky is over. Just wait till Todd oh whats his face gets this info on his morning MSBC bullshit session.
So in other words agreed..The poll is BS and give Repukes bragging right for a day or so.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
18. This raises another question
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:35 PM
Aug 2014

Are those who still use land lines more conservative than those who don't? Or are they more liberal, or about the same?

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
11. The only numbers
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:33 AM
Aug 2014

that matter will be revealed on election night.
Be cautious in believing poll numbers as they too are "gerrymandered" in order to get a desired outcome--in Hopes of Depressing turnout-I mean, what's the point of voting when Your candidate is lagging behind and the polls tell us the opponent is Favored to win?

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
12. The critical point...
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:34 AM
Aug 2014

is that, after 30 years in office, McConnell is at 46%. He's not going to attract NEW voters at this point, so there's an opportunity for Grimes to get the undecided votes.

onecaliberal

(32,822 posts)
13. These same people talk
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 11:57 AM
Aug 2014

About morals and Christianity but vote for someone who is owned by corporate America. He doesn't give two shits about any of the dumb fucks who vote for him. His campaign manager is accused of paying bribes and McConnell knew about it before he hired the guy.
What in the hell is wrong with people.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
14. It's The Politics Of Fear
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:12 PM
Aug 2014

For whatever reason it seems to work. It is part of the messaging that ISIS will soon strike in America. Just listen to the fears being expressed about people with American passports training with ISIS where they will return to American shores with WMD. Accordingly, ISIS is a political problem for Democrats and this poll is showing that. The funny part is that the stock market, which factors in many imaginary things, has not had a negative response to an ISIS threat. That should tell you all that you need to know about the threat.

judgegblue

(140 posts)
17. Senator NO, aka Senator Know-nothing, says YES to the Koch bros and the 1%
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:30 PM
Aug 2014

I wish his opponent would emphasize how McConnell opposes anything proposed by Obama especially if it helps the average person, but assures the wealthy that he will protect them. He is the epitome of what most people dislike about our Congress - they don't do anything to make life better for the people. He is the ultimate obstructionist declaring that his primary goal was to defeat Obama, not to solve any of our social or economic problems. We need to say NO! To Senator NO.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,165 posts)
19. electoral-vote take on this poll
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:37 PM
Aug 2014

From the electoral-vote.com site:

"SurveyUSA has released a new poll showing Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) leading secretary of state Alison Lundergan Grimes 46% to 42%. However, since the poll was taken, two events have happened that could affect the race. First, McConnell was caught on tape talking to the Koch brothers and promising them that as majority leader he would block everything Obama wanted to do in the last 2 years of his term. Second, McConnell's campaign manager, Jesse Benton, resigned yesterday amidst a scandal in which the Ron Paul campaign (which Benton ran) bribed an Iowa state senator for his endorsement in 2012. While McConnell was not involved in the bribe in any way, Grimes is surely going to run ads effectively saying: "The old boys club is corrupt and we need to send new people to Washington to clean up the mess."

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
25. Do voters in Kentucky really care about a tape
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 05:15 PM
Aug 2014

Showing he meet up with them.I mean really it's Kentucky Grimes is trying to run as a Republican like and it's not going to bring democrats out to the polls.We seen this movie before as they say.Remember Alex Sink

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
24. This shows what dire straits the Dem party is in
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 03:50 PM
Aug 2014

the good news is that most of those who act like actual Dems are doing OK.

emulatorloo

(44,115 posts)
27. No it shows how traitorous the news media is for protecting McConnell's ass
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 05:27 PM
Aug 2014

Have seen some decent coverage in one Kentucky newspaper. National media silent on Koch tape and the bribery scandal.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. whatever the reason, we can't pick up a seat
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 07:07 PM
Aug 2014

with an attractive, energetic young female candidate against an ugly, mean, fossilized criminal. If indeed the media is the biggest problem (probably true), then something needs to done about that.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
28. Posters in this topic trying to find silver lining in this are reminding me of 2012 Rove
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 05:32 PM
Aug 2014

The actual vote totals are going to MUCH better for republicans than the poll numbers are. So if we aren't significantly ahead in the polls, we have no chance.

VirginiaTarheel

(823 posts)
37. It is an uphill battle
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 07:58 AM
Sep 2014

While we should definitely fight to the end, we should not be delusional either. Winning in Kentucky will be very difficult, will take everything to fall our way. Kentucky is innately deep red, and we should factor in that a Republican has a built in huge as advantage that polls tend to underestimate.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
33. For any Democrat to win
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 08:07 PM
Aug 2014

in states where the voters are easily duped the Democrat needs at least a five point lead in the polls on election day. Otherwise, there is a plausible factor that the polls were off. Look at how Max Cleland lost in Georgia.

 

Vine Gatherer

(94 posts)
34. Two months is an eon
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 02:48 AM
Sep 2014

Now that Romney is speaking on McConnell's behalf, I'm confident the turtle is doomed.

negoldie

(198 posts)
35. OK
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 04:50 AM
Sep 2014

This was all over the Lexington paper yesterday. Yea he's leading by 4 percentage points......with a margin of error of 4%. I wouldn't get too uptight over McConnell's lead. Still a lot of time to go.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
36. When I worked for a major polling firm, I would have had to call that a tie.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 06:06 AM
Sep 2014

If it was within the margin of error, we didn't say someone was leading; we said they were tied.

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