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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:11 PM Aug 2014

Kaptur concerned Ohio EPA withholding test results (Toledo OH Water)

Source: 19actionnews.com

Kaptur concerned Ohio EPA withholding test results: Toledo's Friday night toxins test came back at almost three parts per billion

Aug 03, 2014 6:15 PM EST



During a US EPA conference call this afternoon Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur complained that the Ohio EPA is withholding water test results taken from Toledo's water system.

And she urged the USEPA pressure the Ohio EPA to provide those results.

During the conference call it was also revealed the next test batch won't be finished until late tonight..possibly as late as 11pm.

The Ohio EPA did not take part in the call.

The US EPA also says it has validated Toledo's Friday night test result at almost three parts per billion..The World Health Organization standard is 1 part per billion.



Read more: http://www.19actionnews.com/story/26185542/toledos-friday-night-toxins-test-came-back-at-almost-three-parts-per-billion

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Kaptur concerned Ohio EPA withholding test results (Toledo OH Water) (Original Post) OhioChick Aug 2014 OP
K&R CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2014 #1
Of course they are... ReRe Aug 2014 #2
My bet is that republican governor Kasich is forcing the softballing of data. FarPoint Aug 2014 #5
Tax the rich . . . another_liberal Aug 2014 #3
Gotta protect the frackers from the little people who don't matter! blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #4
If that is a glass of current Lake Erie water. roamer65 Aug 2014 #6
Hoping for the best.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #7
It certainly did come from Lake Erie OhioChick Aug 2014 #8
OMG!! LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #9
I hope someone decides to protect the people. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #10
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm no No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #11
You are correct, if memory serves. Bohunk68 Aug 2014 #12
The long term solution is unliked by Corporate farms happyslug Aug 2014 #14
America is so third world! SCVDem Aug 2014 #13

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,588 posts)
1. K&R
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:14 PM
Aug 2014

What is wrong with the Ohio EPA?

Are they trying to hide how bad the situation is? That's not a good way to proceed.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
2. Of course they are...
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:18 PM
Aug 2014

The EPA, if not already, should be on the ground in Ohio taking over the whole thing!

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
5. My bet is that republican governor Kasich is forcing the softballing of data.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:16 PM
Aug 2014

That's a man we can not trust.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
7. Hoping for the best....
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:15 PM
Aug 2014

However, this newest information does not bode over well. Meanwhile, let's hope whatever is in that glass pictured above, did not come out of Lake Erie. YIKES if it did.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
8. It certainly did come from Lake Erie
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:35 PM
Aug 2014

"This is a glass of algae filled Lake Erie water, near the Toledo water intake crib, on Sunday."

http://www.toledoblade.com/Medical/2014/08/03/Still-no-timetable-on-when-it-s-safe-to-drink-water-Ohio-Gov-John-Kasich-Toledo-Mayor-D-Michael-Collins-say.html

Snip ~ "Out on Lake Erie, about 20 people — a combination of journalists, elected officials, and environmental activists — got an up-close look at the algae problem surrounding Toledo water-intake crib today.

The water had a striking, green hue — almost like green paint or, as it's often described when microcystis algae is in full bloom, like pea soup."



LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
9. OMG!!
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:52 PM
Aug 2014

That's AWFUL. Downright scary! WOW!

No wonder Congresswoman Kaptur is asking for the latest test to come back ASAP from the EPA. I'm keeping a close eye on this story from S.E. Michigan and hope this situation is resolved for N.E. Ohioans quickly.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
10. I hope someone decides to protect the people.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:09 AM
Aug 2014

The delays sound as if someone is trying to protect someone other than the people. Sorry. Come on EPA. This is a crisis. Altho if the glass of green is real, most of us will be smart enough not to drink it! We have very serious water problems in our country.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
11. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm no
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:54 AM
Aug 2014

expert in this area, but it's my understanding the algae bloom is caused by a combination of farm runoff and sewage.

I guess it would be worse at this time of the year due to the heat of summer and increased farm runoff by this time of year.

I imagine, but don't really know, that the fertilizer used for crop growth is greater by August.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
12. You are correct, if memory serves.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:24 AM
Aug 2014

Grew up in NE Ohio. Every summer, while in Cleveland, the water would start tasting nasty and it was because of the algal blooms in the lake near the intakes. The problem was solved by using carbon filters. The root of the problem, farm runoff and raw sewage, was not addressed.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
14. The long term solution is unliked by Corporate farms
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:26 PM
Aug 2014

The Corporate farms then drag out some actual small farmers (some still exits) to be their front men, and some of these small farmers fall into that trap and become spokesmen for Corporate Farms while they think they are saving their own farms.

The problem is modern Farming techniques are the most efficient if you remove any obstacle to the Super large tractors of today. This includes both side of any stream or creek that flows through a farm. If you would keep about six foot on either side of said stream non plowed, it would absorb any run off from the surrounding fields BEFORE it hit the stream. All you need is about six foot on each side to do this.

The problems is such barriers, for that what they would be, interfere with the operation of large tractors. , you can not just ignore the stream (or such run across if, but lift up the plow) and resume plowing on the other side. You would have to work around such "Barriers" and corporate farms do NOT want to do that,

Worse, the six feet does NOT have to be left alone, just not plowed. Cattle running up against it is less of a problem (through still a problem).

The solution are simple, you either pass a regulation that no plowing of fields within six feet of a stream (which can be justified on the concept that what you do on your property can not cause serious harm to the property of others, in this case people down stream) OR have the state take such land back as public easements using the power of Eminent domain. The Regulations are cheaper. but opposed by Corporate Farmers for it cuts back their ability to use today's super large tractors. Smaller farmers may oppose them, till told that all it requires is no to the stream plowing, but they can use the six foot on each side of the stream for any other purpose, including running cattle.

Long term the taking of a easement would be best, but that requires the expending of money, but it means either side of the stream is now public property and could be left wild to extend the areas wild life can survive in.

The opposition to both plans from farmers, mostly corporate in financing, but you have front men who are either small farmers OR portrayed as small farmers. Such Farmers opposing both plans for they are told the bad side, less land for them to plow, it is a taking of their land as oppose to the good side, that the land is still they's to use as they see fit within the regulations if this is done by regulations. If this is done by easement, it will become land that they are no longer paying taxes on but they can use as wild lands just like any other citizen and they can do it better for they are living right next to it.

We know what needs to be done, but elected officials do NOT want to do it for the people who oppose both plans will remember the implementation of such plans long after people who support both plans have long assumed it was no longer in dispute. People who see themselves being hurt by an action of Government will remember long after the people who benefited from the action of Government has long assumed it is the natural ways of things and no longer vote on that issue.

Politicians know of the above rule, and prefer to be lead by the people. So far most people do not understand this dispute and how to solve it and thus it festers. We have to take such incidents and drive home WHY it is occurring and HOW it can be solved. That will cause the people to demand action and Politicians will respond only when the people DEMAND that the correct action be done. Thus we must point out HOW to solve this problem and that solution is a six foot ban in plowing next to any flowing body of water. We should demand regulation AND Government buying of such easements and point out that is the only PERMANENT solution to this problem, everything else are only temporary patches.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
13. America is so third world!
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 09:35 AM
Aug 2014

No potable water (in places), droughts, infrastructure failing and corrupt politicians taking money to keep us that way.

Don't tell me that We're number one!

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