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Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:01 PM

GOP Lawmakers Appeal To Obama To Negotiate With Congress To Avert Defense Cuts

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, March 29, 1:16 PM

WASHINGTON — Republican lawmakers are pleading with President Barack Obama to negotiate with Congress to avert automatic, across-the-board military cuts that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said would be devastating.

Seven senators warn that the $50 billion reductions that would kick in next January would mean thousands of jobs lost and hardship for the Pentagon. They told reporters Thursday that the issue can’t wait until a lame-duck congressional session in December.


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Reply GOP Lawmakers Appeal To Obama To Negotiate With Congress To Avert Defense Cuts (Original post)
Purveyor Mar 2012 OP
villager Mar 2012 #1
lark Mar 2012 #2
zipplewrath Mar 2012 #3
villager Mar 2012 #4
zipplewrath Mar 2012 #5
Enrique Mar 2012 #14
Lasher Mar 2012 #23
aquart Mar 2012 #8
JBoy Mar 2012 #6
anti-alec Mar 2012 #13
longship Mar 2012 #7
calimary Mar 2012 #9
OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #10
Renew Deal Mar 2012 #11
anti-alec Mar 2012 #12
bluestateguy Mar 2012 #15
juajen Mar 2012 #21
awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #25
JoePhilly Mar 2012 #29
awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #31
bluestateguy Mar 2012 #27
awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #32
denverbill Mar 2012 #16
Jester Messiah Mar 2012 #17
freshwest Mar 2012 #18
Owlet Mar 2012 #19
Iliyah Mar 2012 #20
jwirr Mar 2012 #22
mistertrickster Mar 2012 #24
Liberalynn Mar 2012 #26
bemildred Mar 2012 #28
nanabugg Mar 2012 #30
woo me with science Mar 2012 #33

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:01 PM

1. Can Obama shock us by not buckling?

n/t

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:07 PM

2. Can we be so lucky?



Not if the past is any indicator.

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:10 PM

3. Define buckling

Even around here you probably won't get a universal definition.

When he made this deal, he was trying to trade revenue increases for spending cuts. I suspect if they come a calling again he may be willing to discuss it again. Although the summer before an election is a lousy time to ask for tax increases.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:14 PM

4. His first term in office?

n/t

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Response to villager (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:17 PM

5. Be nice

made me laugh but.....

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:58 PM

14. signing a bill reversing the defense cuts

that's my definition

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:32 PM

23. It's not buckling if it's what Obama wanted all along.

More like cover for Obama to do what his base doesn't want him to do.

Do you think it's been by accident that Gates and Panetta have both been on lengthy Keep the MIC bucks flowing tours? Do you think they have acted on their own in this respect without Obama's encouragement? I don't.

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:32 PM

8. It's not the buckling, it's getting so pathetically little for it, every time.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:18 PM

6. Funny, this thread is on the front page right now, just above

"Senate defeats Dem measure to nix ‘Big Oil’ tax breaks, 51-47"

Congress isn't even trying to live up to the deal they made.

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Response to JBoy (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:54 PM

13. Also, end all Republican filibusters until further notices.

 

Majority rules.

That's the Republican way.

51-47 to end tax breaks - and it's effective immediately.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:22 PM

7. Sounds like a teachable moment for the GOP

Obama ought to educate them about the definition of the word, compromise.

R&K

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:44 PM

9. They're "pleading"? My ass.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:44 PM

10. Time to give the GOP

more than they asked for.

It's the Obama way!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:49 PM

11. Then the republicans can begin to negotiate on tax changes

The system is working as Obama intended

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:52 PM

12. Negotiation:

 

Give up all the Bush era (both of them) and Reagan era tax cuts, All of them.

And cancel all subsidies given away to those who do not need them - That includes the Oil Companies.

Remove the cap from the Medicare.

Raise the SS COLA to 45% to catch up on real costs of living.

Medicare for All.

That's just for starters.

They are all non-negotiable but if you want to avert the cuts in the Defense side, then you must agree to these above directives.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:04 PM

15. He should counteroffer them something they will never take

Offer to spare the Pentagon in exchange for letting the Bush tax cuts for the $250,000 earners expire.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:08 PM

21. I thought all of those tax cuts automatically expired, or is this a different tax cut?

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Response to juajen (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:50 PM

25. "I thought all of those tax cuts automatically expired"...

and every time they are set to expire, we renew them. They are here to stay, unfortunately.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:00 AM

29. They were extended one time. Not repeatedly.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:36 AM

31. they will be again....

because, of course, we will have an election coming up or some other lame excuse to be generated later. Our politicians fold faster than cheap suits.

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Response to juajen (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:49 PM

27. That they do on December 31

And if Obama can make it past the election, he won't have to worry about the electoral repercussions of just letting them all expire--for everybody--if the Congress refuses to at least let the wealthy's tax rates go back up. Then Obama can say fine, then everybody's taxes will go back up. And he won't have to worry about electoral consequences.

But first he must make it past this election, otherwise the tax cuts will only expire for three weeks.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:37 AM

32. but the people in Congress...

will worry. They will be extended, either because of re-election fears or the republicans will tie it to something we want passed.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:11 PM

16. Sure, go for it. Just replace any defense cuts with tax increases on the rich. Have at it GOP!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:32 PM

17. What his response should be:

"Gee, sorry guys, but I'm all out of fucks to give."

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:35 PM

18. Where were these beggars when Obama bent over backwards to protect workers, the poor, etc.?

They made this bed of nails for everyone.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:55 PM

19. Negotiating

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:05 PM

20. Yea right

the same gop lawmakers who would use his bipartisan attempt to work with them into a weapon against him. Yea right.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:54 PM

22. What really hurt is the betrayal of the Dems who voted to defeat the bill. I can see the Alaska and

Louisianna representative doing it but why did the rest? At least those two are from oil states.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:48 PM

24. Cut the budget! Cut the budget! But don't cut defense!

 

Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:54 PM

26. No deal

unless they want to give us Medicare for all in return.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:56 AM

28. "You can start any time. What's on the table?" nt

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:12 AM

30. This is a gun happy, kill happy nation.

 

Give war a chance. That's all we seem to know. We are growing a nation of crazed military who come home and become crazed police supported by a crazed community. There will soon be no peace for anyone...and gated communities will not keep this shit away from your door. The over reaction to 9/11 put us on this war-footing and we on the edge of the cliff of perpetual panic. We have folks in FL who would still like to invade Cuba, folks in AL, MS who would still like to lynch blacks, folks in Congress who want to starve poor people and bomb Iran, folks on Wall Street who to steal from retirement funds and pay no taxes, and people all over who want to listen to and believe Rush Limbaugh. The picture is pretty bleak.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:35 PM

33. Ooh, they are going to put on a new play for us!

It will be full of drama and faux negotiations!

But I hear on good authority that the MIC gets the money at the end...


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