Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:03 AM
Eugene (15,533 posts)
U.S. to pursue 'non-lethal' aid for Syrian rebels
Source: Associated Press
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) – Seeking to stem the violence in Syria, the U.S. and other key allies are considering providing Syrian rebels with communications help, medical aid and other "non-lethal" assistance. President Obama discussed the potential aid options Sunday in a lengthy private meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Both leaders are in Seoul, South Korea for a nuclear security summit. Turkey has been a key U.S. partner in international efforts to quell violence in neighboring Syria and push President Bashar Assad to leave power. The United Nations estimates 8,000 people — many civilian protesters — have been killed in year-long clashes between forces loyal to Assad and opposition fighters. Ben Rhodes, the White House deputy national security adviser for strategic communication, said Sunday that communications assistance could be critical to the opposition's efforts. -snip- Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-03-25/syria-us-aid/53764796/1
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Eugene | Mar 2012 | OP | |
| no_hypocrisy | Mar 2012 | #1 | |
| leveymg | Mar 2012 | #2 | |
| dipsydoodle | Mar 2012 | #3 | |
| Deep13 | Mar 2012 | #4 | |
| freefall | Mar 2012 | #5 | |
| Fool Count | Mar 2012 | #6 | |
| David__77 | Mar 2012 | #7 | |
| cqo_000 | Mar 2012 | #8 |
Response to Eugene (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:06 AM
no_hypocrisy (25,299 posts)
1. Isn't that how we got started in Libya?
Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:33 AM
leveymg (26,351 posts)
2. It's how we got started in Iraq - '98 McCain-Lieberman Iraq Liberation Act funded opposition group
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Last edited Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:38 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) that was the channel for false WMD intelligence and other disinformation that was used to justify the invasion a few years later.
We've learned nothing. The same powerful neocons are still in control of the White House and Senate. We're going to do it again, and even DU now has its own cheerleaders for war and disinformation brigade. Roll the drums, saddle up, we're going to war! Clinton Signs Iraq Liberation Act
Iraq News, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1998 By Laurie Mylroie http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/11/01/981101-in.htm The central focus of Iraq News is the tension between the considerable, proscribed WMD capabilities that Iraq is holding on to and its increasing stridency that it has complied with UNSCR 687 and it is time to lift sanctions. If you wish to receive Iraq News by email, a service which includes full-text of news reports not archived here, send your request to Laurie Mylroie . I. CLINTON SIGNS IRAQ LIBERATION ACT, WHITE HOUSE STATEMENT, OCT 31 II. '99 APPROPRIATIONS BILL, IRAQ OPPOSITION, SIGNED BY CLINTON OCT 21 III. INC WELCOMES IRAQ LIBERATION ACT, PRESS STATEMENT, OCT 31 Today is the 89th day without weapons inspections in Iraq and the first day without UNSCOM monitoring. "Iraq News" is preparing an issue on Iraq's decision to suspend UNSCOM monitoring. Meanwhile, this issue deals with the developments regarding the policy promoted by Congress to deal with the Iraqi threat, namely to overthrow Saddam. On Oct 30, Radio Free Iraq began broadcasting. In an Oct 30 press statement, David Newton, head of RFI, explained "that in addition to local news about Iraq, programs will focus on democracy, free speech and human rights. 'Under the dictatorship of President Saddam Hussein, people in Iraq never a chance to hear about these issues,' said Newton, a former US ambassador to Iraq. He says broadcasts to Iraq will eventually expand to six hours a day, airing in the Arabic as well as Kurdish languages." Transcripts and RealAudio of the broadcasts will be available at http://www.rferl.org Yesterday, Clinton signed into law HR 4655, the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998." In a presidential statement, issued by the White House, Clinton said, "This Act makes clear that it is the sense of the Congress that the United States should support those elements of the Iraqi opposition that advocate a very different future for Iraq than the bitter reality of internal repression and external aggression that the current regime in Baghdad now offers. . . . On October 21, 1998, I signed into law the Omnibus Consolidated and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, which made $8 million available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition. . . My Administration, as required by that statue, has also begun to implement a program to compile information regarding allegations of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes by Iraq's current leaders as a step towards bringing to justice those directly responsible for such acts." Indeed, Sec 590 of the omnibus appropriations bill stated that "not less than $8,000,000 shall be made available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition. Of this amount, not less than $3,000,000 should be made available as a grant for the Iraq National Congress. The conferees also direct the Administration to provide not less than $3,000,000 as a grant to the Iraqi Campaign to Indict Iraqi War Criminals to be used to compile information to support the indictment of Iraqi officials for war crimes. The conferees direct the Administration to provide not less than $2,000,000 for the conduct of activities by the Iraqi democratic opposition inside Iraq." The president of the INC's Executive Council welcomed Clinton's signature of the Iraq Liberation Act, in an Oct 31 statement that began by condemning Saddam's suspension of UNSCOM monitoring, while hailing the president's signing of the legislation and thanking the US Congress. The statement concluded, "Saddam is the problem and he cannot be part of any solution in Iraq. Therefore, President Clinton's action today is the most appropriate response to Saddam. Let him know that Iraqis will rise up to liberate themselves from his totalitarian dictatorship and that the US is ready to help their democratic forces with arms to do so. Only then will the trail of tragedy in Iraq end. Only then will Iraq be free of weapons of mass destruction." |
Response to Eugene (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:29 AM
dipsydoodle (32,668 posts)
3. Guns dont kill people : people kill people
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so it follows that guns are non lethal. Be interesting to see what Russia supplies the government with.
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Response to Eugene (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:11 PM
Deep13 (37,262 posts)
4. Nonlethal aid? Like what, a case of body bags? nt
Response to Eugene (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:40 PM
freefall (662 posts)
5. So now it's all right to support al-Qaeda?
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"Apart from fears that groups identifying with al-Qaeda are operating on the fringes of the insurgency, Western wariness of siding openly with the rebels has mounted after rights groups accused them last week of carrying out human rights abuses."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9165813/Barack-Obamas-personal-pledge-to-aid-Syria-rebels.html (March 25, 2012) "Apparently in an effort to get out in front of the issue, the Obama administration has conceded al-Qaeda’s involvement in the Syrian rebellion. Last month, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper warned that al-Qaeda had “infiltrated” the opposition to Bashar Assad." http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292904/al-qaeda-rebel-syria-john-rosenthal (March 8, 2012) "Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sunday warned against the United States arming rebels in Syria because such a move could inadvertently lead to support for Al-Qaeda and Hamas." http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-arming-syria-rebels-could-help-al-qaeda-204813946.html (February 26, 2012) Guess it must now be OK to provide material support to terrorist groups. |
Response to Eugene (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:02 PM
Fool Count (1,230 posts)
6. A possible form of "non-lethal" aid -
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to send them guns and bullets and to ask that they only aimed for Syrian soldiers' extremities.
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Response to Eugene (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:01 PM
David__77 (14,120 posts)
7. So Obama wants to send US tax dollars to the enemies of the USA.
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Last edited Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I cannot see how else this could possibly be interpreted. The Islamic radicals pursuing terrorism in Syria are the same exact ones (in many cases, literally!) as those that killed and maimed so many US soldiers in Iraq.
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Response to Eugene (Original post)
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:03 AM
cqo_000 (207 posts)
8. Syrian rebels are engaged in "ethnic cleansing" of Christians
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/03/church-fears-ethnic-cleansing-of-christians-in-homs-syria.html
helping the opposition overthrow the Government could in turn give rise to a mass slaughter of religious minorities.I hope the U.S. and it's allies think really hard about the potential consequences of what they are proposing to do. |

