Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:04 PM
Javaman (40,616 posts)
Former vice president dick chaney undergoes heart transplant - UpdateLast edited Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:08 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: MSNBC.COM
No link. Breaking news Update: Former Vice President Dick Cheney recovering after heart transplant Former Vice President Dick Cheney was recovering Saturday at a hospital in Falls Church, Va., after undergoing a heart transplant, NBC News reported. Cheney was in the Intensive Care Unit of Inova Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, his officew said in a statement. The former vice president has been on the cardiac transplant list for more than 20 months. In 2010, Cheney had a left ventricular assist device implanted for treatment of end-stage heart failure. Although the former Vice President and his family do not know the identity of the donor, they will be forever grateful for this lifesaving gift. Read more: http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/24/10847614-former-vice-president-dick-cheney-recovering-after-heart-transplant
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:06 PM
mucifer (8,498 posts)
1. Usually they don't give transplants to people in their 70s
Response to mucifer (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
kestrel91316 (45,394 posts)
5. Money talks. Or perhaps threats.
Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #5)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:31 PM
aggiesal (1,523 posts)
34. Probably paid for ...
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with taxpayer $$$'s
Single payer for gov't officials but none for us! |
Response to mucifer (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:11 PM
Suich (8,834 posts)
10. When a neighbor was 79 (last year)
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he got a "less than perfect" kidney. I was amazed...he seems to be doing fine now!
Don't know about hearts. |
Response to Suich (Reply #10)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:15 PM
pacalo (20,664 posts)
60. My dad had a kidney transplant at the age of 48, but due to the anti-rejection
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medicine, he died of cancer at the age of 53. It's the anti-rejection medicine that is so dangerous because the drugs damage the immune system to the point that the patient is more susceptible to other diseases.
It wasn't long after the transplant surgery that a bump began to grow on his face, originating from his carotid artery -- very similar in appearance & position to the bump on John McCain's face. I read somewhere that new anti-rejection drugs are being developed that will be less destructive to the immune system; I sure hope so! |
Response to mucifer (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
liberal N proud (43,700 posts)
67. If you are in the 1%, you will get whatever you need
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Over someone else probably.
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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:52 PM
shanti (16,657 posts)
101. now you know where much of the money went
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that the dick stole while in office
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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:48 AM
The Second Stone (1,025 posts)
106. I met a number of people at UCSF who had heart transplants after age 70
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so I think you might be mistaken. Anyway, my contribution is that Cheney had a heart implanted, not having been born with one.
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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:21 AM
fasttense (14,440 posts)
112. If Dick got a heart, somone had to die for him to get it. n/t
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:06 PM
annabanana (45,573 posts)
2. I thought his was replaced with some whirring (non beating)
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thing years ago.
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Response to annabanana (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:22 PM
freethought (2,372 posts)
26. He was!
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Surgeons implanted some sort of system to his heart. The technique was shown on Rachel Maddow. It quite literally looks like household plumbing attached to the heart. IF I remember correctly the system is powered from an exterior source and due to that fact, Tricky Dick Cheney would have no heart beat (Did he even have one to begin with?).
The doctor said that the procedure was essentially the end game for Dick Cheney. If his heart had anymore problems, options for treatment were nil given his age. One poster on this thread made a good point. If he is over 70 years old, why is he getting a transplant? Even in countries with socialized medicine, patients over a certain age do not organ transplants. Hmmm. |
Response to freethought (Reply #26)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:36 PM
3waygeek (2,034 posts)
39. It's called an LVAD...
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for Left Ventricular Assist Device -- it basically takes over the left ventricle's function of pumping the freshly oxygenated blood to the rest of the body.
I've had left ventricle problems for years -- not enough to require an LVAD. However, I will be having mitral valve surgery sometime in the next few months. |
Response to freethought (Reply #26)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:07 PM
Kolesar (29,324 posts)
57. Why is an old alcohol abuser getting a heart? eom
Response to annabanana (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:45 PM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
100. He has an entire health team that travels with him wherever he goes, just
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in case he should blow a fuse or his battery should die out. He is Bionic Man! This is one evil dude. War Criminal extraordinaire, goes unpunished.
Cheney tied to cash theft and possible murder in Iraq Quote: According to an informed source, Dick Cheney, while vice president, amassed a fortune in cash stolen by U.S. occupation forces in Iraq from Saddam Hussein and some of his leading officials and advisers. http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=9956.0;wap2 |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
TheCowsCameHome (27,697 posts)
3. Since he wasn't born with one, how will they hook it up?
Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #3)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:20 PM
aggiesal (1,523 posts)
22. No doubt this is a better heart ...
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the last one was pure evil.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Scuba (26,720 posts)
4. Should be "implant".
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
cbayer (120,011 posts)
6. Here's a link
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
freshwest (31,430 posts)
7. Ah, I thought this was an Onion article. Darth was reported to have been suffering greatly.
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Last edited Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:24 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Something about being unable to take a bath because he had electrical wire sticking out of his back, attached to some power supply to keep his ticker going. That's bad.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Initech (38,858 posts)
8. He has a heart?
Response to Initech (Reply #8)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:50 PM
Devil_Fish (1,664 posts)
47. He does now.
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Maby this one will make him confess to all of his crimes.
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Response to Initech (Reply #8)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:42 PM
Left Coast2020 (1,483 posts)
90. No. Not really.
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They installed something just long enough to get him to a courtroom in the Hague.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:10 PM
surrealAmerican (7,478 posts)
9. Who had to die for this?
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Shouldn't donor organs go to people who are more likely to survive a long time after the surgery?
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Response to surrealAmerican (Reply #9)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:16 PM
freshwest (31,430 posts)
63. Some unfortunate Chinese activist? They sold organs to the highest bidder, didn't donate them.
Response to freshwest (Reply #63)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:33 PM
Pachamama (8,845 posts)
69. No, Lynne or Liz just ripped it out of the chest of some poor innocent person....
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....Kind of like the evil witch does on ABC's Sunday "Once Upon a Time"....
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:11 PM
bigtree (49,250 posts)
11. I wonder how many younger folks he stepped in front of at age 70
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. . .to get this heart?
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Response to bigtree (Reply #11)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:30 PM
totodeinhere (6,591 posts)
85. They don't necessarily go by age alone. There are a lot of factors.
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Someone younger than him might have not been compatible with the heart he got. And they also go by location. If he was physically located nearer to the available heart than a younger person who was much farther away, sometimes established policy gives the heart to the patient who is closer.
His waiting time was more than 20 months. The average waiting time for a heart is six months to three years. So based upon his waiting time it looks like he didn't get any special treatment. He might have got special treatment in other ways that we don't know about of course. And he has better health insurance and more resources than most of us do. But then again in most cases Medicaid and Medicare will pay for transplants. They tried to change Medcaid policy toward transplants in Arizona but their GOP governor was forced to back off from that. http://www.cpmc.org/advanced/heart/patients/topics/transplant.html |
Response to totodeinhere (Reply #85)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:33 AM
bigtree (49,250 posts)
108. good info
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thanks
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:13 PM
bluestateguy (40,060 posts)
12. I would hope that he had to wait his turn on the list just like everyone else
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The rules for organ transplants must be uniform and not shortcutted for anybody.
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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #12)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:17 PM
CTyankee (35,045 posts)
64. Ha. That'll be the day...please...
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:13 PM
Curmudgeoness (10,491 posts)
13. So the Wizard of Oz does exist? And he can give a heart
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to a heartless bastard? This is just the kind of story that makes me NOT want to be an organ donor.
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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #13)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:19 PM
dipsydoodle (32,631 posts)
21. If you do ever reconsider
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and you've got a Hammond B3 please advise.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #21)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:23 PM
aquart (67,535 posts)
29. A Hammond B3?
Response to aquart (Reply #29)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:33 PM
dipsydoodle (32,631 posts)
36. A Hammond B3
but only if Curmudgeoness should decide to donate an organ. |
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #36)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:18 PM
FailureToCommunicate (4,399 posts)
82. Just saw that at his castle...very cool!
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Organ donor indeed!
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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #36)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:25 AM
winstars (1,214 posts)
104. A very nice B3 (and bass pedals) with Leslie 122, there is no sound like it!!!
Response to winstars (Reply #104)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:54 AM
dipsydoodle (32,631 posts)
107. The back ground to the joke is
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that I've got friends in Dayton who had a B3 in their living room with a Leslie but not the correct stool / seat. My friends sister collects antiques and she went off to an estate sale on a Sunday afternoon while I was over your side. She got back late afternoon with a big smile on her face carrying an immaculate seat which she'd bought for $45.
But that wasn't the only thing she'd bought. When the sale had finished she'd wandered off into barn and had already enquired what would happened to stuff not sold. The answer was it would be cleared as trash. In the corner of the barn was something covered with linen and sure enough it was a B3 - mint ! They let her have it for $20 to save loading it up as scrap. |
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #21)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:48 PM
Curmudgeoness (10,491 posts)
46. I'm not planning on going anywhere soon.
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So you will have to find that Hammond elsewhere. I do have a cute little harmonica though.
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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #13)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:47 PM
NYC Liberal (15,599 posts)
45. LOL - "Wizard of Oz" was trending on Twitter at the same time as "Dick Cheney"
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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #45)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:50 PM
Curmudgeoness (10,491 posts)
48. .................
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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #48)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:55 PM
NYC Liberal (15,599 posts)
96. And the even funnier part is I'm pretty sure it was just coincidental!
Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #13)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:17 AM
pstokely (7,523 posts)
111. The Chimp still needs brain
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nt
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Response to pstokely (Reply #111)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:33 PM
Curmudgeoness (10,491 posts)
117. I got lost on the yellow brick road...duh! nt
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:13 PM
RufusTFirefly (4,928 posts)
14. Everybody! Hum along
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:13 PM
BootinUp (25,610 posts)
15. Was it a pigs heart?
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I am sure there would be a good match there.
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Response to BootinUp (Reply #15)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
Xipe Totec (29,815 posts)
17. Compatibility is very important
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I wish him a long, long, long life....
I hope he lives long enough to bury his children. |
Response to BootinUp (Reply #15)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:22 PM
TheCowsCameHome (27,697 posts)
25. Nah, Rush wouldn't sell his. Maybe it was Breitbart's. n/t
Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #25)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:36 PM
El Supremo (13,153 posts)
71. + 1000!
Response to BootinUp (Reply #15)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:05 PM
OnyxCollie (6,558 posts)
78. I would like to suggest
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Last edited Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:27 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) that the heart be taken from either a hyena or jackal. Extra points if the heart is taken from a carcass being eaten by either a hyena or jackal.
Seems fitting. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:15 PM
rug (47,264 posts)
16. I must reconsider my donor card.
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
frogmarch (7,243 posts)
18. I hope he lives long
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enough to meet his end in prison.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:19 PM
elleng (40,525 posts)
20. 'Aide Says Cheney Had Heart Transplant'
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has been on the transplant list for more than 20 months.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/03/24/us/politics/ap-us-cheney-heart-surgery.html?hp |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
marshall gaines (347 posts)
23. waste
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what a waste of a perfectly good heart. when will america stop being so wasteful?
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
LongTomH (3,996 posts)
24. Will they have to drive a stake through his old one? Or bury it as toxic waste?
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Inquiring minds want to know!
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Response to LongTomH (Reply #24)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:39 PM
freshwest (31,430 posts)
88. Aw, now, you...
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:22 PM
Deep13 (37,239 posts)
27. If he feels better, maybe he won't be such an asshole. nt
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:22 PM
Julian Englis (231 posts)
28. All those years of smoking....
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Did he finally quit smoking?
They refuse liver transplants to alcoholics who have not maintained sobriety. I wonder if they refuse heart transplant to unrepentant smokers. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:25 PM
aquart (67,535 posts)
30. Must hurt a lot.
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Doesn't hurt enough, and I'm sure he's got great drugs, but it hurts.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:26 PM
ladywnch (2,603 posts)
31. not to worry folks, I'm sure his body will reject anything even
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vaguely resembling a heart. It will be seen as a foreign object.
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Response to ladywnch (Reply #31)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:35 PM
AngryOldDem (8,784 posts)
37. Brava
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That pretty much sums it up.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:27 PM
jehop61 (316 posts)
32. Isn't it wonderful
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that Cheney has such great federal health insurance and it covers such an expensive operation! Now why in the world do the repubs. not want the rest of us to have the same?
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:30 PM
onehandle (35,442 posts)
33. So what worthy soul didn't get a heart today? nt
Response to onehandle (Reply #33)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:37 PM
AngryOldDem (8,784 posts)
42. Probably someone like the people Olbermann featured on Countdown during the health care debate.
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Otherwise healthy, but laid off, with a family and no health insurance.
I wonder how all of those people are doing today. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:31 PM
Turbineguy (16,546 posts)
35. Maybe the Good Lord wanted to give me
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another chance to thank him for not murdering my Son.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:36 PM
Th1onein (5,439 posts)
38. This will probably be deleted, but....
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I hope he never gets out of the hospital alive. I hope he suffers and suffers and suffers and then dies. Fuck him, he doesn't deserve a second chance at life.
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Response to Th1onein (Reply #38)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:20 AM
Hassin Bin Sober (8,615 posts)
103. There's still a chance. Go to the light, Dick. Go to the light!
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:36 PM
LeftishBrit (29,616 posts)
40. I am somehow reminded...
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of the old Doonesbury episode, where the heart of a liberal is transplanted into the body of a conservative, who then becomes a liberal himself! His wife sobs, "I was warned that he might be politically impaired for the rest of his life - but a (SOB!) Democrat!"
I know that's not how the heart actually works, but it would be nice if that happened with Cheney. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:37 PM
Snarkoleptic (2,561 posts)
41. Cheney had a sphincter transplant and it rejected him...
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...so I'm stunned he was fast tracked for a heart.
With his age and risk factors such as stress and former smoker, I'm stunned as I imagine he was cynically leapfrogged past some more appropriate recipients. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:43 PM
Ohio Joe (11,995 posts)
43. One more person dies for cheney
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Bastard deserves a trial and a prison cell, not a transplant.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:44 PM
notadmblnd (17,103 posts)
44. who did he have killed to get it?
Response to notadmblnd (Reply #44)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:56 PM
Devil_Fish (1,664 posts)
51. Travon Martin. NT
Response to Devil_Fish (Reply #51)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:12 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
97. You beat me.
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:52 PM
reACTIONary (999 posts)
49. Change of heart? Naw... (nt)
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:55 PM
larkrake (285 posts)
50. I wonder who they killed to get a match
Response to larkrake (Reply #50)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:57 PM
Devil_Fish (1,664 posts)
52. Travon Martin. NT
Response to Devil_Fish (Reply #52)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:25 PM
auntAgonist (16,651 posts)
68. really? Utterly insensitive and out of line IMHO
Response to auntAgonist (Reply #68)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 04:44 AM
Devil_Fish (1,664 posts)
122. I agree, a 71 year old war crimminal getting a heart is Utterly insensitive and out of line
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when there are younger and more viable candidates waiting. Getting Trayvon's heart is exactly what that ass hole would do with out hesitation. He probably used the CIA to find a good match and then put out a hit on the poor kid to one of his obvious minnions. Sorry if I have offended you, but I really don't give a shit. Dick has offended me, and I wouldn't put anything past him. He probably didn't even need surgery, just fucking swallowed it, vampire that he is.
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Response to larkrake (Reply #50)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:03 PM
guitar man (15,996 posts)
53. Palpatine. nt
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:05 PM
Poll_Blind (23,198 posts)
54. And so he takes out another loan against humanity. nt
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:05 PM
olddad56 (2,831 posts)
55. wouldn't it be considered an initial installation rather than a replacement.
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:06 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,003 posts)
56. I won't share what I am thinking right now!
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:08 PM
marias23 (337 posts)
58. A human could have used it.
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What a waste.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:11 PM
davepdx (164 posts)
59. I wonder if the heart will reject the body? n/t
Response to davepdx (Reply #59)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:25 PM
Glimmer of Hope (2,379 posts)
84. I couldn't help but wonder too. Hmmm.
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:15 PM
Grassy Knoll (4,272 posts)
61. Isn't Dick President Obama's 8th cousin ?
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I Think Mrs. DICK mentioned it in an interview.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #61)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:32 PM
totodeinhere (6,591 posts)
86. Yea something like that. I wonder if Cousin Barack will send him a get well card. n/t
Response to totodeinhere (Reply #86)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:45 PM
BamaFanLee (64 posts)
94. Let's hope Obamacare will stop things like this
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There are far more people deserving of a good heart than Chaney.
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Response to BamaFanLee (Reply #94)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:00 AM
totodeinhere (6,591 posts)
102. I saw a science fiction show once where a person got a transplant and then
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took on the personality of the organ donor. So maybe there's hope for Cheney.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:15 PM
penndragon69 (575 posts)
62. His new heart,
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will wither and rot inside his DEMONIC, hate filled carcass.
You don't give blood to rotting, decaying road kill, you scrap it off the road and dump it in the trash. |
Response to penndragon69 (Reply #62)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:35 PM
Pachamama (8,845 posts)
70. Well said....
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May this new heart reject him.....
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:21 PM
underpants (105,621 posts)
66. How can we not make Darth Vader references?
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:46 PM
mackattack (344 posts)
73. He must have gone to Oz
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Because only a wizard can keep that man going.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:57 PM
Fearless (12,393 posts)
75. Well hopefully he lives long enough to pay for his crimes.
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Fuck knows we're still paying for them.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:59 PM
qbhawk (5 posts)
76. Heart to Heart talk
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Last edited Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Well now, what is this story really about? A man with a Heart? or a Robot who never had a Heart. I alway thought that this man has been in the hospital too many times for the tinkering of heart that does not exist. A normal person would have been dead by now! Is it too far fetched to think, that we might be under the control of Extraterrestrials ... Beings, like a Dick Cheney who are really not from, or of this earth ... but from another dimension here to destroy this earth. Oil exploitation, Unjust wars, Lying, shooting his buddy without remorse, the scooter libby sacrificed etc etc. Many of us would be in prison just for thinking about any of this, if caught in association with such crimes against humanity.
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Response to qbhawk (Reply #76)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:26 AM
LongTomH (3,996 posts)
113. That was exactly the plot of John Carpenter's They Live
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They Live was John Carpenter's cautionary tale about a world ruled - invisibly - by a group of extraterrestrial entrepreneurs. People were constantly being bombarded by messages to 'consume,' 'obey,' 'marry and reproduce,' and 'No independent thought.' See what I mean by 'cautionary tale?'
Cheney - as he really is? |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:02 PM
cstanleytech (5,302 posts)
77. My question is was he given special consideration in getting the heart
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be it because hes wealthy and or well connected?
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #77)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:17 PM
totodeinhere (6,591 posts)
81. I don't think so. The average waiting time is between six months and three years.
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Cheney waited for more than 20 months so he falls within that time window.
http://www.cpmc.org/advanced/heart/patients/topics/transplant.html |
Response to totodeinhere (Reply #81)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:49 PM
cstanleytech (5,302 posts)
121. Thank you.
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Hopefully the new heart will work better than the last one in more ways than one
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:17 PM
jerseygal (67 posts)
79. Breaking News - Heart rejects Cheney
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Former Vice President Cheney received a heart transplant earlier today but the heart has begun to show signs of rejection.
The heart itself was quoted as stating "that it had expected to be transplanted into an individual who had previously had a heart" and was surprised to find itself placed into a heartless individual. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:18 PM
Douglas Carpenter (15,140 posts)
83. somewhere there is a dead unicorn
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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #83)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:40 PM
Canuckistanian (42,196 posts)
89. But it's family profited handsomely
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You can be sure of that.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:36 PM
sorefeet (272 posts)
87. Maybe He'll live
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long enough to stand trial for the war crimes now.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:00 PM
mackattack (344 posts)
91. It would be ironic
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if the surgeon didnt show up to the operation because he had "other priorities."
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:22 PM
Thor_MN (4,604 posts)
92. Some sociopath must have recently died...
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Tissue matching would have only allowed a transplant from a like source... A normal heart would reject Cheney.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:34 PM
queerart (1,784 posts)
93. I Don't Want To See Anyone Ill......
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I send positive energy to him, and his family...... Once he is better, we all can get back to business as usual....... |
Response to queerart (Reply #93)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:44 PM
Marthe48 (605 posts)
127. You are very kind
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:49 PM
rppper (2,603 posts)
95. the flames of h@ll are licking at your a$$ Dick.....
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you can run...draw it out a few more years with surgery....but theres a special place at the dinner table in hell next to hitler, attilla the hun and nero.....
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:13 PM
avaistheone1 (11,763 posts)
98. Who did he kill?
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Last edited Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:46 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Whose heart did he steal?
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:19 PM
hyphenate (12,495 posts)
99. He should have been living
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in Arizona. I hear they deny people hearts there. And all these years he's lived without one? Fucker. Bastard.
Sorry--I'm not feeling very charitable right now. This is just another nightmare from those bastards stepping on the rest of us again. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:58 AM
BiggJawn (23,051 posts)
105. So Chandra Levy's heart finally rejected him?
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What would you say the chances of one of us peons getting a new pump if we were 71-y-o would be? Zip?
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:39 AM
GreydeeThos (97 posts)
109. Waste of a perfectly good transplant heart
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Cheney should be in Leavenworth with along with Robert Bales. Throw George Zimmerman in the same cell and we will hit the trifecta.
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Response to GreydeeThos (Reply #109)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 08:55 AM
pstokely (7,523 posts)
110. Don't they give federal prisoners health care?
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nt
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:48 AM
SylviaD (162 posts)
114. The attitudes expressed on this thread do no credit to DU n/t
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:48 PM
teewrex (96 posts)
115. How many other people in their 70's get heart transplants? I'm betting....zero
Response to teewrex (Reply #115)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:55 PM
onenote (22,010 posts)
123. can i take that bet?
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I love bets that I'm guaranteed to win.
While not many heart transplants go to folks in their 70s, there is no formal cut off and of the 2000 plus heart transplants last year, 330 plus went to folk 65 and over (which means I'm pretty sure the number aged seventy or higher is more than "zero"). |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:24 PM
avaistheone1 (11,763 posts)
116. Cheney finally gets a heart.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:05 PM
Solly Mack (49,491 posts)
118. Oh, well.
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:39 PM
Doctor_J (26,370 posts)
119. miserable piece of shit has "government-run health care"
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he and his entire blood-sucking family should be in federal prison.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:23 PM
Spirochete (4,211 posts)
120. Where did they find one small enough
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to replace the original?
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:59 PM
ohiolover (2 posts)
124. How can a person who never had a heart get a transplant?
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On the other hand, maybe he has awoken a new man who will do penance for his crimes against humanity.
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Response to ohiolover (Reply #124)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 02:13 PM
William769 (30,435 posts)



