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kpete

(71,954 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:04 PM Mar 2012

EXCLUSIVE: Sanford City Commissioner Concerned George Zimmerman Will Flee Country

Source: Think Progress

EXCLUSIVE: Sanford City Commissioner Concerned George Zimmerman Will Flee Country
By Judd Legum on Mar 23, 2012 at 5:58 pm

Sanford City Commissioner Velma Williams
ORLANDO, FL — Sanford City Commissioner Velma Williams is concerned that George Zimmerman, the man who killed Trayvon Martin last month but has not been arrested or charged with any crime, may try to leave the country. In an interview with ThinkProgress, Williams said that Zimmerman’s checkered history make his actions unpredictable. Speaking about the possibility that Zimmerman could leave the country to avoid arrest, Williams said “he might do that.”

Williams met several times with former Sanford City Police Chief Bill Lee, who “temporarily” stepped down yesterday, to discuss her concerns about the investigation. But these meetings left her unsatisfied. As an elected official, she says she has not been properly apprised of the conduct of the investigation, even as more problems came to light. Williams said she received no indication from Lee that the police knew of Zimmerman’s whereabouts or that any that any steps had been taken to prevent him from fleeing to avoid arrest.
There are “mothers and grandmothers” throughout Sanford who are concerned their children “are in danger” with Zimmerman still a free man, according to Williams. They tell her “when my son goes out, I’m worried he might not come back.” Williams added that she was personally concerned for the safety of her 11-year old grandson.

These concerns extend beyond Sanford. The president-elect of the National Bar Association, John E. Page, wrote in a letter sent to Attorney General Eric Holder today: “We join the call for the immediate arrest of Mr. Zimmerman to avoid additional harm to the public.”

Today, Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr. announced that two police captains, including one who led the Trayvon Martin investigation, would act as interim co-chiefs. Williams said she advised Bonaparte to replace Lee a week after Trayvon’s death, but her advice was “not embraced.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/23/451181/exclusive-sanford-city-commissioner-concerned-george-zimmerman-may-flee-country/

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EXCLUSIVE: Sanford City Commissioner Concerned George Zimmerman Will Flee Country (Original Post) kpete Mar 2012 OP
Georgie has lost the support of the NRA?! Now that is interesting...... peacebird Mar 2012 #1
I thought it said National Bar Association... WheelWalker Mar 2012 #4
NATIONAL Bar Association elleng Mar 2012 #10
Ah. Thank you. WheelWalker Mar 2012 #14
<blush> my bad, reading too fast or too hopefully.... {hangs head in shame} peacebird Mar 2012 #22
It was always a possibility. The PD should have instructed him to stay close. That's standard, no? freshwest Mar 2012 #2
Not legally ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #5
So the movie line of 'Don't leave town,' isn't true? Wouldn't they have gotten his contact info? freshwest Mar 2012 #7
Never has been...its just a BS intimidation tactic that makes good copy for Hollywood ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #16
I've noticed that more with legal shows seeming to make it up. LiberalFighter Mar 2012 #26
Yeah.. there are a lot of hollywood-isms in our collective ideas about courts, etc. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #23
I'm sure! I grew up on Perry Mason. I object!' LOL. freshwest Mar 2012 #24
It would be nice if he would commit suicide, but if I was him loudsue Mar 2012 #12
I din;t think it would be nice for anyone to commit suicide obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #37
I'd bet his father knows where he is. This loser most likely didn't have any money so monmouth Mar 2012 #3
i've been wondering for days about barbtries Mar 2012 #6
+1 freshwest Mar 2012 #8
This LA Times article says that he is in hiding. bathroommonkey76 Mar 2012 #39
so today i hear he has a lawyer. barbtries Mar 2012 #40
A very real fear considering Who his father is and the money he may have. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #9
WHO is his father? elleng Mar 2012 #11
a retired Judge link: Justice wanted Mar 2012 #13
'Retired magistrate judge' elleng Mar 2012 #19
The info just keeps pouring in. But I see him as 'connected.' freshwest Mar 2012 #25
I don't see any 'connected' info, elleng Mar 2012 #27
What I mean, is they knew the system generally, don't you think? freshwest Mar 2012 #28
They may know the system, elleng Mar 2012 #29
A real man would show his face. Herlong Mar 2012 #15
There have been claims of threats in retaliation ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #17
Gee, I wonder why. secondvariety Mar 2012 #20
So lock his ass up until trial. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #31
Can't do that until he is charged ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #32
What is the challenge with charging him, Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #35
Beats the hell out of me ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #36
Worse-it's Florida. secondvariety Mar 2012 #21
Highly doubtful RZM Mar 2012 #18
He doesn't have money but he'll trust his lawyer? RUMMYisFROSTED Mar 2012 #30
Probably not enough money to leave the country with a nest egg RZM Mar 2012 #34
His father is a retired judge from Virginia. yardwork Mar 2012 #38
Well, there had to be something in his background to give him this much cover. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #42
Where is he? -..__... Mar 2012 #33
So much for one of those much-hyped "Catholic educations." JDPriestly Mar 2012 #41

WheelWalker

(8,954 posts)
4. I thought it said National Bar Association...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:19 PM
Mar 2012

which I actually hadn't heard of... I only knew of the American Bar Association.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. Not legally
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:24 PM
Mar 2012

Without a court order of some sort they cannot restrict his movement nor take his passport.

I am leaning towards suicide my self, voluntary or otherwise

LiberalFighter

(50,749 posts)
26. I've noticed that more with legal shows seeming to make it up.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:50 PM
Mar 2012

One of the reasons I stopped watching Hawaii 50. And I won't watch the one with Selleck as he is a damn Republican and it appears they are trying to give NYPD more respect than they deserve.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
24. I'm sure! I grew up on Perry Mason. I object!' LOL.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:46 PM
Mar 2012

My experiences helping people in civil matters don't have any of that drama. Well, not usually.

Unless there's a surprise piece of evidence while giving an affidavit and one side folds immediately. Saw that more than one time.


loudsue

(14,087 posts)
12. It would be nice if he would commit suicide, but if I was him
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:46 PM
Mar 2012

I'd be afraid to ever show my face in public again. There are too many people that would just as soon not have to share the planet with that dude anymore.

obamanut2012

(26,030 posts)
37. I din;t think it would be nice for anyone to commit suicide
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:16 AM
Mar 2012

I would just like to see him brought to justice, and the Sanford PD's coverup investigated.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
3. I'd bet his father knows where he is. This loser most likely didn't have any money so
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:18 PM
Mar 2012

dad financed him. He's as culpable as the rest of them if this is so.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
6. i've been wondering for days about
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:30 PM
Mar 2012

where he is. has anyone else noticed that there apparently is only one picture of the man? i've even googled "where is george zimmerman" multiple times and have never gotten a result that addressed that question.

where is he? why aren't his whereabouts being discussed? it seems really weird.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
39. This LA Times article says that he is in hiding.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:39 PM
Mar 2012

"George Zimmerman, who shot a black teenager in Florida, is in hiding after receiving death threats. A full portrait has yet to emerge of the 28-year-old, one of the characters at the center of the drama that has turned questions about race and guns into a national debate."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-20120323,0,6326075.story

I also found this article that says he left a voicemail for Frank Taaffe. Taaffe released this yesterday.

In the message Zimmerman said-

"Hey Mr. Taaffe," the message began. "This is George. Um, first and foremost, I wanted to say I am very sorry for the loss of your son, and, um, I can't imagine what you must be going through. Um, secondly, I wanted to thank you for doing everything you've been doing. Um, I know you don't have to, and I appreciate it, and you're truly setting an example for me for the future of, uh, doing the right thing even when it's tough, and, uh, I appreciate it. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks."


http://globalgrind.com/news/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-sanford-florida-speaks-details

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
40. so today i hear he has a lawyer.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:37 PM
Mar 2012

now the police should put him in protective custody if they still can't bring themselves to arrest him for MURDER. either way he needs to surface, behind bars.

elleng

(130,669 posts)
19. 'Retired magistrate judge'
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:18 PM
Mar 2012

in this 'story' means little, imo.

The family appears to have moved to Florida from Virginia, within the last 10 years or so, there's no discussion of WHERE the father served as 'judge,' AND 'magistrate judge' has the least authority/clout; its the beginning, or end, of the judge ladder, and could have very well been in Virginia where he served (if he did.) Florida is very strict/stingy about accepting out of state attorneys to practice there, and imo its highly unlikely, unless the father had been earlier admitted to practice in Florida, that he was, actually, a judge in Florida.

'The images of Zimmerman — not just his face, but the words used to describe him — can confound and confuse. Why are they calling him white, wondered Paul Ebert, the Prince William County commonwealth’s attorney who knew Zimmerman’s mother, Gladys, from her days as an interpreter at the county courthouse. Zimmerman’s mother, Ebert knew, was Peruvian, and he thought of her as Hispanic. . .

In Manassas, (that's Virginia) where Zimmerman lived in the 1980s and 1990s with his parents and two siblings, neighbors tended to define the family based on their spiritual profile. “Very Catholic .?.?. very religious,” their neighbor Jim Rudzenski recalled Thursday. The children attended All Saints Catholic School on Stonewall Road through the eighth grade before going to Osbourn High School. George became an altar server and evening receptionist at All Saints Catholic Church. The Zimmermans “were known and respected in the community for their dedication and service,” said Robert Cilinski, pastor of All Saints Catholic Church.

The father, Robert Zimmerman Sr., is a retired military man. He could be strict. And the children’s grandmother, who lived with the family, also kept a watchful eye, said Kay Hall, who lived across the street from the Zimmermans in a neighborhood just west of Sudley Road for about 20 years. George and his siblings “didn’t play with the neighborhood kids,” Rudzen­ski said. “They had to stay home and play.” It was always “Yes, ma’am,” “No, ma’am,” Hall said.

Zimmerman’s life was not without difficulties. In 2001 — when he was 17 or 18 — he was the victim of a minor criminal assault, said Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera. The city’s computer records do not provide details of the crime.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/who-is-george-zimmerman/2012/03/22/gIQAkXdbUS_story.html



elleng

(130,669 posts)
27. I don't see any 'connected' info,
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:51 PM
Mar 2012

but I'm not that in touch. Am interested in/connected to matters concerning legal system.

elleng

(130,669 posts)
29. They may know the system,
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:01 PM
Mar 2012

and that could help, but I don't see any evidence that they've been closer to it in Florida than anyone else. (from the reading I've done.)

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
15. A real man would show his face.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:58 PM
Mar 2012

Gunning an unarmed child down in cold blood? What are we, the wild, wild west?

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
36. Beats the hell out of me
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:11 AM
Mar 2012

Sanford PD is blaming the State Attorney who has since recused himself. New State Attorney seems to be staying with the Grand Jury route rather than arresting him.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
18. Highly doubtful
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:12 PM
Mar 2012

I doubt he has the money or the contacts to make it work. He'll probably just trust his lawyer and cross his fingers if he's charged.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
34. Probably not enough money to leave the country with a nest egg
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:29 PM
Mar 2012

But he'll scrape together enough for a lawyer I'm sure.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
42. Well, there had to be something in his background to give him this much cover.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:46 PM
Mar 2012

His dad's a judge, the victim is black, the PD Chief is white, it's springtime, what the hell.

Unbelievable.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
33. Where is he?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:09 PM
Mar 2012

Probably holed up with Casey Anthony.

Who wouldn't be in seclusion with a nation wide lynch mob screaming for your blood.

It's not a matter of "cowardice" or fleeing justice... it's a matter of survival.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
41. So much for one of those much-hyped "Catholic educations."
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:16 PM
Mar 2012

A lot of people in my bailiwick get very damp eyes, nearly folding their hands in prayer, when they speak about a "Catholic education."

Maybe it is just my bad luck, but Zimmerman is yet another of the many very bad products of a Catholic education who happen to have passed my way.

Nothing wrong with a Catholic education. But it isn't better than any other education from what I can tell.

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