Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:53 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,545 posts)
John Edwards Reportedly Named In Investigation Of Alleged 'Millionaire Madam' Anna Gristina
Source: Huffington Post
MANHATTAN — A call girl working for alleged "Millionaire Madam" Anna Gristina told investigators she was paid to have sex with former U.S. Sen. John Edwards when he was in New York raising money for his failed presidential bid, DNAinfo has learned. Edwards is the first big name to surface in connection to Gristina's alleged prostitution scheme run out of an Upper East Side apartment. Edwards' lawyer declined to comment on when reached Wednesday. On Thursday morning, his attorneys issued a statement to Politico and other news outlets saying their client "categorically" denied the allegation. Later Thursday morning, DNAinfo was contacted by Edwards attorney Abbe Lowell demanding a retraction. DNAinfo stands by its story. Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/john-edwards-millionaire-madam-anna-gristina-upper-east-side-_n_1372316.html?ref=new-york
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Mar 2012 | OP | |
| cindyperry2010 | Mar 2012 | #1 | |
| corkhead | Mar 2012 | #2 | |
| CTyankee | Mar 2012 | #10 | |
| shanti | Mar 2012 | #14 | |
| cindyperry2010 | Mar 2012 | #23 | |
| shanti | Mar 2012 | #25 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | Mar 2012 | #3 | |
| BlueStater | Mar 2012 | #4 | |
| LuckyLib | Mar 2012 | #5 | |
| rayofreason | Mar 2012 | #6 | |
| Marrah_G | Mar 2012 | #7 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Mar 2012 | #8 | |
| Beacool | Mar 2012 | #9 | |
| Odin2005 | Mar 2012 | #13 | |
| Bruce Wayne | Mar 2012 | #27 | |
| karynnj | Mar 2012 | #17 | |
| Beacool | Mar 2012 | #18 | |
| .99center | Mar 2012 | #20 | |
| Beacool | Mar 2012 | #24 | |
| Lil Missy | Mar 2012 | #11 | |
| Blue_Tires | Mar 2012 | #12 | |
| ButterflyBlood | Mar 2012 | #21 | |
| IndyJones | Mar 2012 | #15 | |
| SylviaD | Mar 2012 | #16 | |
| loyalsister | Mar 2012 | #22 | |
| Bruce Wayne | Mar 2012 | #28 | |
| loyalsister | Mar 2012 | #30 | |
| Alcibiades | Mar 2012 | #19 | |
| Bruce Wayne | Mar 2012 | #29 | |
| Alcibiades | Mar 2012 | #31 | |
| MrSlayer | Mar 2012 | #26 |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:55 PM
cindyperry2010 (792 posts)
1. I cannot fathom
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how that marriage went so wrong and he turned out to be such a fucking dickhead those kids will read about their father was such a jackass to their mother for years. god what a dick
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Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:00 PM
corkhead (3,922 posts)
2. I no longer boast about how good a judge of character I am because of this man.
Response to corkhead (Reply #2)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:53 PM
CTyankee (35,049 posts)
10. fooled me too. I will never give my trust so willingly to a politician again.
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I chalk it up to wanting so much to believe to the narrative of JE as a tender, loving husband to Elizabeth, standing by her in her time of need. The warm, caring family man. The fighter for the poor. The guy who would fight the insurance companies tooth and nail on behalf of health care for everybody.
Ever since JE was unmasked for the bastard he is, I have encountered DU folks just like you and me who "trusted" too. And I just read Rebecca Traister's new book "Big Girls Don't Cry" (about Hillary's campaign). Traister is a young activist who initially was for JE, fooled just like us, before finding her way to supporting Hillary. It took me back to my CT primary before the 08 election. JE had dropped out and I voted for Hillary... |
Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:05 PM
shanti (16,657 posts)
14. he's lucky if his kids still talk to him
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Response to shanti (Reply #14)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:30 AM
cindyperry2010 (792 posts)
23. true
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doesn't he have custody of the younger ones?
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Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #23)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:42 AM
shanti (16,657 posts)
25. not sure
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was mostly referring to his older kids.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:02 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
3. I wish I were surprised.
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:41 PM
BlueStater (2,980 posts)
4. Sadly, I believe her.
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He lied about the affair. He lied about the child being his. The man is just a total pathological liar.
The one good thing that came out of all this is that it opened my eyes. For the rest of my life, I'm am NEVER going to trust ANY politician 100% ever again. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:03 PM
LuckyLib (3,263 posts)
5. You have to shake your head at these bozos -- they don't seem to ever think that anyone will talk.
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Facing indictment or a fat reward for their story? They ALL will talk.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:14 PM
rayofreason (2,259 posts)
6. Looks like his cover is blown...
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...or was that only with Hunter?
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:17 PM
Marrah_G (22,429 posts)
7. I hate even saying his name now
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You conned us all John. We believed in you.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:58 PM
Tarheel_Dem (16,648 posts)
8. Sadly, because he's lied before, there will forever be "reasonable doubt" about anything...
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he says in the future. He suckered a lot of people, even his family. Whether or not this lady is telling the truth, John now has a sordid reputation.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:42 PM
Beacool (19,068 posts)
9. Edwards always struck me as being a tad too slick.
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But I never imagined that he was as low as he turned out to be.
As usual, it's not the sin that grates, but the hypocrisy. In the 90s he was one of a few Democratic politicians to point an accusatory finger at Bill Clinton. I also remember in 2007 Elizabeth giving an interview to a magazine and saying that her life choices had made her more "joyful" than Hillary's choices. I thought at the time that it was a pretty presumptuous comment. I’m not even sure if some of the choices I’ve made are good for me. How could I judge someone else’s choices? Shortly after that interview John became involved with Rielle Hunter. Edwards turned out to be a disappointment to his wife, family and supporters. |
Response to Beacool (Reply #9)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:03 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
13. I suspect he is a sociopath.
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He has that mix of charm of a lack of a conscience.
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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #13)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:25 PM
Bruce Wayne (692 posts)
27. Sadly, no
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He's glib and selfish in his personal life. But the fact is that he shows remorse and embarrasment for his screw ups. He might have a big whopping ego, but he lacks the telltale signs of clinical sociopathy.
I can't go into the details for reasons I can't disclose, but, leave it said that I've known more than a few genuine sociopaths in my time. Senator Edwards does not in the same "rogue's gallery." Hmm, perhaps I've said too much. |
Response to Beacool (Reply #9)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:20 PM
karynnj (46,673 posts)
17. You can add to that the fact that Elizabeth mischaracterized her own choices
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Like Hillary, she worked as a lawyer when her two older kids were young. In fact, where Hillary (if she felt the need) could argue that she needed to work for the family to have the money to afford a better lifestyle and college for Chelsea. In addition, although she was "not working" with the younger two, she actually was "working" on his Senate and 2 Presidential campaigns - added up, that was a significant percent of their lifetime.
I suspect that the campaign pushed her to make those comments in an effort to hurt Clinton, while helping their campaign. Whoever came up with it, it backfired. If you look at the speeches made by the Democratic Senators, they ALL criticized Clinton for his actions with Monica and his dishonesty under oath. In fact, all their speeches could be abstracted as ( why what BC did was wrong) (mitigating circumstances) (why it did not raise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.) Edwards was no different and he was one of the Senators selected to defend Clinton. (The Edwards campaign idea that he somehow "saved" BC is nonsense. It was a party line vote and more than half the Democrats spoke before him.) |
Response to karynnj (Reply #17)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:32 PM
Beacool (19,068 posts)
18. Elizabeth made more than once similar remarks.
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I wonder if at some level she envied Hillary. After all, she had achieved a position in public life that few could aspire: first lady, senator and at that point presidential candidate.
Regardless, all that pales when compared to her health struggles and the pain caused by John. It is so sad that she had to have so much stress at a time when her life was ending. She deserved to have peace in her last year of life. That is why what John did is so egregious. The world is full of cheating men, but the peace of mind that he took from his dying wife is what people find hard to forgive. |
Response to Beacool (Reply #18)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:01 AM
.99center (140 posts)
20. The 2008 campaign is over
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Why smear his wife with your opinion's of her "envy" of Hillary and should we dig up interviews of Hillary shortly before Bill Clinton became involved with Monica Lewinsky?
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Response to .99center (Reply #20)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:49 AM
Beacool (19,068 posts)
24. The remarks are on public record.
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First of all, I'll say whatever I want to say. Second, what I wrote was in reference to the hypocrisy of criticizing other people's marriage when they had their own problems.
Whatever you think of either Clinton, they have never publicly made judgmental comments about other people's marriage. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:29 PM
Lil Missy (13,802 posts)
11. He sure turned out to be a sleeze. n/t
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:39 PM
Blue_Tires (31,731 posts)
12. I've wondered how often these high-dollar escort services are investigated
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Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:41 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) just so certain people can get their hands on the client list...Funny how these cases always seem to be in New York, Los Angeles and Washington, D.C.
I'm not defending the madam or JE, but I really hope the focus is more on uncovering police corruption or the human trafficking/abuse/slavery angle versus just naming names in the book... |
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #12)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:03 AM
ButterflyBlood (12,287 posts)
21. This service was actually benign from what I understand
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No slavery, abusive pimping, trafficking or anything like that. Just arranging for consenting adults to engage in activities. Complete use of state resources to even deal with it, though learning of the clients is always a little amusing.
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:08 PM
IndyJones (1,061 posts)
15. Every bad thing that is happening to him he brought on himself. He literally destroyed everything
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he seemed to hold as important. Makes me wonder if he has some sort of drug addiction or if he's just a major narcissist...or both.
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Response to IndyJones (Reply #15)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:58 PM
SylviaD (162 posts)
16. John Edwards is a scumbag...
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...and an embarrassment to the words "progressive politician". As a woman I consider this man to be the lowest of the low.
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Response to IndyJones (Reply #15)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:23 AM
loyalsister (6,926 posts)
22. It some degree of excess in ego to run for president
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But this guy thought he could do it and behave like a scum bag without getting caught. Post - Clinton, anyone running for that nomination who is truly committed to serving their country would do everything they possibly could to avoid any possibility of dirt coming up to trash their campaign.
I never warmed up to him, but he betrayed so many of my friends. He deserves all the damage that comes with these dripping revelations. Who knows what else is out there.... |
Response to loyalsister (Reply #22)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:30 PM
Bruce Wayne (692 posts)
28. I believe the preferred term is "healthy ego."
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Not much different, but it at least leaves open to us the occasional chance of voting for a non-preening cockatoo.
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Response to Bruce Wayne (Reply #28)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:26 PM
loyalsister (6,926 posts)
30. I'll take that
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I will never forget a piece from "Dreams From My Father." Obama had just given a speech on apartheid and swore it was the last he would ever give. His friend told him he did well and questioned why he would say that. He went on to say "Pretty words don't make it so. So, why do I pretend otherwise? I'll tell you why. Because it makes me feel important. Because I like applause. It gives me a nice cheap thrill." He thought it should only be about the issue\goal. That was before he became a community organizer\politician and truly looked into the possibility of making a difference. The fact that he questioned the egomania possible when gaining public attention when he was in his early 20s says a lot to me about who he is. He has confidence in himself and abilities, but made an early conscious decision that he doesn't want it to be just about him. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:38 PM
Alcibiades (5,015 posts)
19. There's never just one woman
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With these philandering politicians, it's a rule: if they have one affair, they have had others.
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Response to Alcibiades (Reply #19)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:31 PM
Bruce Wayne (692 posts)
29. What about Newt? He says he's loved only 3 women in his life.
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And he just so happened to have married each of 'em. I think that's romantic. Ha ha.
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Response to Bruce Wayne (Reply #29)
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:23 PM
Alcibiades (5,015 posts)
31. It's also bullshit
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Maybe he's only loved three women, but it's hard to tell how he loved them, given his behavior towards them, at least the first two. Maybe he's only loved three, but I bet he fucked plenty of others while he was with them.
Every time this happens, there are more women that could come forward. It's remarkable that so few do. |
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:47 PM
MrSlayer (21,355 posts)
26. Kind of reckless.
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I don't really care who he has/had sex with but it's really irresponsible and reckless to be doing this during a Presidential campaign.
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