Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:38 AM
kpete (38,895 posts)
Top Romney Adviser Says Romney Can Change His Positions After The Primaries: ‘Like An Etch A Sketch'Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:20 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: Think Progress
Top Romney Adviser Says Romney Can Change His Positions After The Primaries: ‘It’s Almost Like An Etch A Sketch’ By Alex Seitz-Wald on Mar 21, 2012 at 9:25 am Mitt Romney can’t be held accountable for his extreme right-wing views, at least according to his campaign’s senior adviser, who said the candidate should be given a “reset button” on any positions he’s taken during the primary campaign if he wins the nominations and faces off against President Obama in the fall. Appearing on CNN this morning, Romney Communications Director Eric Fehrnstrom was asked if he’s concerned that Romney may alienate general election voters with some of the hard-right positions he’s taken during the primary to appeal to conservatives. Fehrnstrom brushed this concern off: HOST: Is there a concern that Santorum and Gingrich might force the governor to tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election. FEHRNSTROM: Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again. Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/03/21/448804/eric-fehrnstrom-etch-a-sketch/ &feature=player_embedded
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| kpete | Mar 2012 | OP | |
| Gore1FL | Mar 2012 | #1 | |
| Cirque du So-What | Mar 2012 | #2 | |
| mackattack | Mar 2012 | #56 | |
| Cirque du So-What | Mar 2012 | #57 | |
| cottage10 | Mar 2012 | #3 | |
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| emulatorloo | Mar 2012 | #5 | |
| Lars77 | Mar 2012 | #6 | |
| Botany | Mar 2012 | #7 | |
| Fritz67 | Mar 2012 | #8 | |
| crazylikafox | Mar 2012 | #12 | |
| tk2kewl | Mar 2012 | #9 | |
| peace frog | Mar 2012 | #34 | |
| Renew Deal | Mar 2012 | #10 | |
| CanonRay | Mar 2012 | #11 | |
| shanti | Mar 2012 | #13 | |
| Liberal_Stalwart71 | Mar 2012 | #14 | |
| CoffeeCat | Mar 2012 | #15 | |
| polichick | Mar 2012 | #16 | |
| tanyev | Mar 2012 | #17 | |
| liberal N proud | Mar 2012 | #18 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Mar 2012 | #19 | |
| TrogL | Mar 2012 | #20 | |
| jwirr | Mar 2012 | #21 | |
| still_one | Mar 2012 | #22 | |
| agentS | Mar 2012 | #23 | |
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| grantcart | Mar 2012 | #54 | |
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:41 AM
Gore1FL (11,666 posts)
1. LOL
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I think they have been using the 'Etch A Sketch' strategy on a daily basis.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:48 AM
Cirque du So-What (8,884 posts)
2. A mind is a terrible thing to erase
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but in the case of Mitt der Shitt, it's obviously a much simpler procedure.
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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #2)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:16 PM
mackattack (344 posts)
56. Ha! Das war lustig
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kannst du Deutsch?
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Response to mackattack (Reply #56)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:26 PM
Cirque du So-What (8,884 posts)
57. Nein
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There are instances where certain phrases sound funnier to me in ersatz usage of different languages, however.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:49 AM
cottage10 (49 posts)
3. Isn't this what the right wing is afraid of?
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Electing someone who ends up being moderate and not extreme enough for them? I hope this gets around because it will sink Mitt and Santorum will be the nominee. Not that I want Santorum to be president; I just think he will be easier to beat than Mitt.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:56 AM
hifiguy (13,029 posts)
4. Not in the age of YouTube
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Willard's stupid remarks will live forever on the intertubes.
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Response to hifiguy (Reply #4)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:48 PM
aquart (67,535 posts)
47. Yep.
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In the Etch-A-Sketch days you erased. But now you go viral.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:59 AM
emulatorloo (24,217 posts)
5. Not sure "We create our own reality" works that well anymore.
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Although their super pacs will try their best.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:05 AM
Lars77 (3,032 posts)
6. This proves America is hardly a functioning democracy anymore
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:05 AM
Botany (36,043 posts)
7. Attn Eric Fehrnstrom
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Have you ever heard of keeping things in the "thought bubble?"
Not only have you given the dems a nice attack ad but you have also given the right wing base a reason to stay home in the fall. Good Job! |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:11 AM
Fritz67 (147 posts)
8. I repeat myself...
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...from something I said on the Mrs. Santorum thread yesterday:
So Mr. Fehrnstrom, are you saying that Rmoney is lying and pandering like a typical politician now, or that he'll be lying and pandering like a typical politician if/when he's running in the general election? |
Response to Fritz67 (Reply #8)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:29 AM
crazylikafox (1,588 posts)
12. perfect campaign commercial
Response to tk2kewl (Reply #9)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:28 PM
peace frog (5,550 posts)
34. Exactly like that!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:21 AM
Renew Deal (56,927 posts)
10. That's the story of Romney's life. He'll say anything to anyone
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:25 AM
CanonRay (4,681 posts)
11. Why not, he's changed them 2-3 times already
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He actually doesn't have any positions, merely temporary stances. He also has no morals, feelings, thoughts, empathy......
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:31 AM
shanti (16,657 posts)
13. hypocrisy, thy name is romney! n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:34 AM
Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)
14. Aren't they taking a gamble on this? The base of the party will stay home if Mittens
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come back to the middle or appears to be too reasonable.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:36 AM
CoffeeCat (19,419 posts)
15. Even Democrats should be appalled at this mindset!
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Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:37 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I have had it with the corporatist-political world viewing US citizens as mindless
dolts who are nothing but objects with which to be toyed. This "etch-a-sketch" comment spotlights the horrifying mindset that was showcased during HBO's recent "Game Change" movie about Palin. Steve Schmitt said, in "Game Change, "News isn't meant to be remembered anymore! It's entertainment. Nothing is remembered for more than forty eight hours any more..." Gee, thanks for treating us like imbeciles. The political machine on both sides believes that the American people are stupid, ignorant, incapable of rational thought and easily persuaded with a snappy marketing campaign. Yep, throw us some "red meat" and come up with a catchy slogan--and we're sooooo on board! I don't agree with ANYTHING Mitt Romney has to say, and I agree less with the rabid right-wing of the Republican party that is being duped here. So, Romney kow tows, lies and puts on his best fake face for the extremists in his party--then his people admit that words and promises mean nothing. When will people realize that the political world views us as idiotic fools. Dare I say--Obama has done the same thing. No one expected a non-reform healthcare bill. No one expected the further erosion of our Constitution. No one expected that Obama would sign on to indefinite detention of United States citizens. No one expected that he would morph his staff and cabinet into a Goldman Sachs fraternity. No one expected that Guantanamo would still remain open. Yes, Obama has done some great things--and I am relieved to know that a Republican is not in the White House. But still---it appears that both sides engages in this kind of "etch-sketch" campaign politicking, and it's so wrong. Another example of how we are seduced and then used (for our votes)--and then cast aside like one night stands--while our elected representatives continue their long-time love affair with their corporate masters. We have a sick, sick system. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:40 AM
polichick (30,375 posts)
16. Is there a Democratic ad in the can yet? The material...
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...just keeps on coming!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:42 AM
tanyev (22,089 posts)
17. You might want to hold off saying that out loud until Mitt has the nomination officially locked.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:53 AM
liberal N proud (43,708 posts)
18. OMG - This is what they expect to offer as a leader of the free world
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An Etch A Sketch Someone has to do a graphic with Romney as an Etch A Sketch |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:57 AM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
19. LOL - I think Romney literally has a reset button in the back of his neck
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It's an outrageous statement but we all knew it was coming. Of course Romney will reverse course on everything he's ever said in his campaign and pretend he never said it.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:01 AM
TrogL (31,269 posts)
20. Authoritarian voters won't care
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They're used to this. In fact, they expect it. In fact, they would probably be upset if this didn't happen because they'd be afraid that Romney wasn't an authoritarian leader.
Authoritarians live in a virtual reality, a "bubble" of sorts where actual, evidence-based reality is forbidden and the party line of the moment is the only "truth". Think "we have always been at war with Oceania" in 1984. If the Romney campaign was incapable of changing its tune on the fly, this would horrify authoritarian followers. They might actually have to approach evidence, face reality and actually think. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:16 AM
jwirr (20,910 posts)
21. IMO that will only cause confusion in his supporters.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:20 AM
still_one (31,079 posts)
22. and the pathetic thing is the much of the American populous will accept that /nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:21 AM
agentS (1,204 posts)
23. Way to maintain candidate integrity, R-money!
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I know being flexible is important in politics, but so is consistency.
You want the people who voted for you in the primary to vote for you in the general, right? IF YOU CHANGE TOO MANY OF YOUR POSITIONS, THEY MAY NOT VOTE FOR YOU- isn't that how elections work, right? I wonder how much contortion an Etch-A-Sketch can do? |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:21 AM
Skinner (57,371 posts)
24. My attempt to illustrate this story on an Etch A Sketch.
Response to Skinner (Reply #24)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:28 AM
SemperEadem (7,997 posts)
26. nice, Skinner!
Response to Skinner (Reply #24)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 01:01 PM
bleever (20,599 posts)
38. DUzy for Skinner.
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This could go viral like the Rmoney pic.
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Response to Skinner (Reply #24)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:55 AM
grantcart (38,741 posts)
54. OK I tried it. Its hard, yours is very good.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:27 AM
SemperEadem (7,997 posts)
25. that's called flip-flopping and it'll be what keeps him sunk
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he'll only prove what everyone on the thugs side who is pissed at his buying this election have been saying all along.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:41 AM
Kalidurga (4,822 posts)
27. Etch-a-sketch Rmoney...
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Best thing about this is it was gift from a RWer. This is the first time I have ever seen a campaign admit that, this is their strategy. Not, the first time I have seen the strategy, but I digress. I hope the meme catches on with the RWers. Probably won't they aren't real quick on the uptake.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:49 AM
Gidney N Cloyd (10,449 posts)
28. Watch out, Eric. Mitt likes being able to fire people.
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Or now maybe he doesn't?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:51 AM
xxqqqzme (13,433 posts)
29. Well that explains Rmoney's
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Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:51 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) idiot gaffes, flubs and stumbles. He has a communication director who is just like him.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:05 PM
Brigid (10,552 posts)
30. Guess what, Mr. Fehrnstrom:
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Your candidate's been doing that for years.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:09 PM
gratuitous (49,292 posts)
32. Why wouldn't or shouldn't Fehrnstrom say this?
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First, it's absolutely true. Second, he can say it without fear that it will come back to haunt the general election campaign. Third, the popular media will tacitly agree that they will not remember stuff from the primary campaign and they will certainly not be so gauche as to bring it up to Romney should he secure the nomination.
And if any of you lot are such Captain Buzzkills that you bring this to CNN's attention come August or September, be assured that you will be ignored (if you're lucky) or subjected to withering ridicule. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:15 PM
KamaAina (45,241 posts)
33. You do know how to erase an Etch-A-Sketch, don't you?
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Shake it really, really hard!!!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:33 PM
Liberalynn (5,547 posts)
35. Mitt you always have been lying scum
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you always will be lying scum! You can't erase or change that! Its who you are at your core!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:35 PM
Enrique (22,623 posts)
36. Romney: "I don't mean a word I say"
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Vote for Romney!
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Response to Enrique (Reply #36)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:45 PM
kiranon (1,406 posts)
37. "And I approve this message for now." More Romneyism or isn't.
Response to kiranon (Reply #37)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 04:22 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
44. He has his fingers permanently crossed behind his back
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 01:39 PM
NCcoast (231 posts)
39. Because the only thing Mitt stands for
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is perpetuating and expanding the corporate oligarchy. And he'll say whatever anyone wants to hear at any time to that end.
I've heard him saying what a wonderfully business friendly place China is. And as we've just seen Bain Capital is selling video surveillance equipment to the Chinese government to help them maintain their police state control. Birds of a feather. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 02:58 PM
MisterP (11,827 posts)
40. welcome to the content-free, horse-race neolib vs. neolib "races" that've been going on since 1980
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:02 PM
livetohike (14,723 posts)
41. Really? Start over - not with the Internet and 24/7 news cycle. All those previous etch-a-sketch
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pictures are saved - forever
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:27 PM
yardwork (37,074 posts)
42. Think so? Maybe the Republican voters are stupid enough to fall for this.
Response to yardwork (Reply #42)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 05:37 PM
LiberalLovinLug (2,024 posts)
45. More like resigned
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Its a real balancing act for the candidate to appear to say the "right" things, but still leave a passage back to the center when he's the nominee. Just exchange center > right and you have the Obama blueprint. A few teabaggers will boycott the vote if Mittens wins the primaries, but the GOP would be banking on the many more moderate conservatives coming back to the fold to take up the slack. Just like progressive Democrats, a lot of die-in-the-wool Republicans will be thinking "who else?"
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:46 PM
Chemisse (18,411 posts)
43. Unbelievable! They don't even PRETEND that Romney is sincere.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:28 PM
sarge43 (17,462 posts)
46. Comedians and editorial cartoonists are going nominate Fehrnstrom for Man of the Year.
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He just gave them the gift that keeps on giving.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:23 PM
Flatpicker (515 posts)
48. This makes
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Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:43 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) RW America look like a bunch of idiots.
Doesn't make any of us look good. Like we have the attention span of a fruit fly. I'm hoping for a video montage of all this with the song "Will The Real Mitt Romney- Please Stand Up" by Eminem playing over it. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:50 PM
obxhead (7,154 posts)
49. Being a "flip flopper" is ok!
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As long as you're a Republican that has god on your side.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:03 PM
hayrow1 (198 posts)
50. Running in '68 his George Romney was destoryed by claiming he had been brainwashed
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This spectacular etch-a-sketch comment, in my view, is the end of Mittens and the beginning of the serious draft Jeb Repuklican movement. Ironically on the very day Jeb endorsed Mitt. Seems fixed? Is the BFEE becoming a little too obvious?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:17 AM
Historic NY (19,723 posts)
51. Willard the phoney....deceiving and flipping.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:22 AM
BlueMTexpat (2,594 posts)
53. For Etch-A-Sketch's "take" on this,
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Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:23 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) see the WaPo's Alexandra Petri.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/mitt-romney-and-the-etch-a-sketch/2012/03/21/gIQAYZ0USS_blog.html Petri goes to great lengths to get the other side's point of view. Here, for example, is Satan's take on Rick Santorum: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/satan-speaks-out-on-rick-santorum/2012/02/22/gIQA5VkPVR_blog.html |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:21 AM
DCBob (14,768 posts)
55. There is truth to this but a politcal advisor should never ever say it.
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Gaffitis must be contagious in the Romney campaign.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:49 PM
Zhade (28,702 posts)
58. Sadly, it worked for Obama.
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NT!
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