Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:53 PM
kpete (38,895 posts)
Catholic bishops pressured Komen over Planned Parenthood
Source: Reuters
Pope Benedict's blessings marked a high point in the Komen charity's relationship with the Catholic church. But even before the papal jetliner touched down at Andrews Air Force Base near Washington in 2008, American church leaders had already begun to emerge as critics of Komen's longstanding ties to Planned Parenthood, the women's health organization whose services include birth control and abortion. Internal Komen documents reviewed by Reuters reveal the complicated relationship between the Komen Foundation and the Catholic church, which simultaneously contributes to the breast cancer charity and receives grants from it. In recent years, Komen has allocated at least $17.6 million of the donations it receives to U.S. Catholic universities, hospitals and charities. Church opposition reached dramatic new proportions in 2011, when the 11 bishops who represent Ohio's 2.6 million Catholics announced a statewide policy banning church and parochial school donations to Komen. Such pressure helped sway Komen's leadership to cut funding to Planned Parenthood, according to current and former Komen officials. The decision, made public in January, and Komen's reversal only days later, sparked an angry outcry from both sides of an intensifying American debate over abortion. Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/15/us-usa-komen-catholic-idUSBRE82E12Q20120315
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| kpete | Mar 2012 | OP | |
| Dont call me Shirley | Mar 2012 | #1 | |
| Brettongarcia | Mar 2012 | #9 | |
| orwell | Mar 2012 | #2 | |
| FiveGoodMen | Mar 2012 | #12 | |
| saras | Mar 2012 | #14 | |
| LiberalFighter | Mar 2012 | #17 | |
| Lint Head | Mar 2012 | #3 | |
| Dawson Leery | Mar 2012 | #4 | |
| HockeyMom | Mar 2012 | #5 | |
| underpants | Mar 2012 | #6 | |
| Brettongarcia | Mar 2012 | #7 | |
| yardwork | Mar 2012 | #8 | |
| Spazito | Mar 2012 | #18 | |
| aquart | Mar 2012 | #19 | |
| yardwork | Mar 2012 | #20 | |
| Spazito | Mar 2012 | #21 | |
| Arugula Latte | Mar 2012 | #10 | |
| Kolesar | Mar 2012 | #11 | |
| Odin2005 | Mar 2012 | #13 | |
| Fearless | Mar 2012 | #15 | |
| fasttense | Mar 2012 | #16 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:58 PM
Dont call me Shirley (1,395 posts)
1. Pope Bendadick has gone too far this time. Stay out of American women's bodies!
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Why do these catholic priests beleive they have the right to intrude (rape) into women's and young boy's bodies? Doesn't follow the teachings of Christ.
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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:41 PM
Brettongarcia (400 posts)
9. The insertion of the sonogram wand might in fact be busted in court; as literally, rape
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Consider the recently-enacted Texas transvaginal sonogram law. Which literally forces a woman who wants a - by the way, legal - abortion - to submit to having an object put into her vagina. Some say this meets the federal definition, literally, of Rape. Sexual penetration under (quasi-legal) coercion.
I'm hoping that women's rights lawyers will get on this approach. And make sure a loud and massively publicized lawsuit/appeal hits the newspapers, about August 2012. Ideally, we need the newspapers to be carrying stories convicting the Republican Party of rape, ideally starting in August. Or three months before the Nov. 2012 general election. Any ladies know any interested lawyers out there? Feel free to contact some lawyers, and get this one moving on your own. Or with friends in NARAL, Planned Parenthood, etc.. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:59 PM
orwell (5,711 posts)
2. What is with these clowns...
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...why do religious fanatics get to dictate their theology to everyone else?
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Response to orwell (Reply #2)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 08:33 PM
FiveGoodMen (13,238 posts)
12. Because everyone else hasn't told them to stand down or die.
Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #12)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 09:20 PM
saras (6,670 posts)
14. That's what it's taken every OTHER time.
Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #12)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:45 PM
LiberalFighter (31,079 posts)
17. There should be a law requiring all Catholic priests in the USA
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to be castrated as a condition of them advocating rape or encouraging cancer in women.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:59 PM
Lint Head (10,441 posts)
3. I think I've just about had it with fascist theocrats!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:01 PM
Dawson Leery (8,370 posts)
4. The Roman Church has once again stepped over the boundry.
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Send them a tax bill.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:14 PM
HockeyMom (10,709 posts)
5. As an ex-catholic, I left because I wanted to GET AWAY from you people
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As an AMERICAN citizen I thought it was my right to belong to any, or NO, religion if I so chose. So tell me why I now must live under the CATHOLIC CHURCH? I don't think so. I will fight you however I can, knowing YOUR Cannon Law from 12 years of your education. You do know your worst enemy, is an EX-CATHOLIC?????
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:24 PM
underpants (105,621 posts)
6. It's like the Texas textbook authority - they pay to influence the outcome
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:31 PM
Brettongarcia (400 posts)
7. Conservative elements of the Catholic Church have turned into ... an Embryo Cult
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The current fixation by elements of the Church on reproductive services, is amazing and depressing; it has utterly changed the church. I listen to EWTN/RN, a para-Catholic organ. And it mentions the embryo more times than Jesus or Mary, in an average day.
In effect? Major elements of the Church have become a Cult. An anti-abortion cult. They are in the grip of a psychological fixation. That is the best way to think of it. In spite of constant warnings from bishops and cardinals like McCarrick, Bernardin, and Ratzinger, the right wing of the Church now has a new, single, narrow obsession, a fixation, just on "one issue": abortion. Even though the Bible itself never mentioned it. Never mind the poor and the sick. Even though the Bible emphasized these things a thousand times. Sad and sickening, that the Church should now advance as its main pillar and demonic fixation, a monomaniacal fixation, on the embryo. But finally, maybe we can get a handle on this. Maybe the best way to understand what is happening in the Church, is to think of it as the emergence, of a new CULT. So that by the way? Now BOTH of our main religious candidates, are in effect, not so much Christians, as cultists: Romney, and old one-issue Santorum. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:35 PM
yardwork (37,074 posts)
8. Sounds like the Catholic Church is laundering money through the Komen Foundation.
Response to yardwork (Reply #8)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 04:36 PM
Spazito (26,463 posts)
18. Yes, that was what struck me as well...
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It sounds like a quid pro quo arrangement where the Catholic Church donates to the Komen Foundation and, in turn, the Komen Foundation returns the 'donation' by way of Catholic universities, etc. while both claim the donations.
It smells very bad, imo. |
Response to aquart (Reply #19)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 05:09 PM
yardwork (37,074 posts)
20. I doubt it. When I posted "laundering money' I didn't mean it in a legal sense.
Response to aquart (Reply #19)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 05:50 PM
Spazito (26,463 posts)
21. It would be interesting to compare the dollars donated by the Church to...
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Last edited Fri Mar 16, 2012, 05:51 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Komen to the dollars donated by Komen to Catholic institutions and see if they are close in amounts. As to prosecutable, doubtful if for no other reason than the Church is often protected from even the barest investigation in many areas.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:55 PM
Arugula Latte (40,152 posts)
10. This effing Church has gone too far one time too many.
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Time for a massive backlash against these fascist misogynistic homophobic theocratic ASSHOLES.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 07:48 PM
Kolesar (29,326 posts)
11. The *patriarchal* Catholic bishops hammering on a women's organization
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How fucked up is that?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 08:40 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
13. These child-raping fucks can go straight to Hell.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 10:59 PM
Fearless (12,393 posts)
15. If they want to be in politics TAX THEM! n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 08:21 AM
fasttense (14,442 posts)
16. Are those Catholic child rapist stumping for the RepubliCONS again?
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White male priests who prefer to rape children are aligning their political clout behind white males who prefer to make women baby factories. Hmmm, I see a connection here.
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